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The Latest on 80th Anniversary of WWII: Russia tweets reminder of Soviet role
Associated Press ^ | Sep 1, 2019

Posted on 09/01/2019 2:16:16 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — The Latest on the 80th anniversary of the start of World War II (all times local):

7:00 p.m.

Russian President Vladimir Putin wasn’t invited to attend ceremonies for the 80th anniversary of the day World War II started in Poland.

But his Foreign Ministry tried to make sure the Soviet Union’s role in ending the war got acknowledged at least.

The ministry tweeted on Sunday: “One may have varying opinions on Soviet policy during the initial period of World War II, but it is impossible to deny the fact that it was the Soviet Union that routed Nazism, liberated Europe and saved European democracy.”

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Russia
KEYWORDS: anniversary; communism; poland; polandinvasion; putin; russia; soviet; soviets; stalin; wwii
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To: rlmorel

Your diatribe is appreciated. Would you have preferred to have the Germans to have succeeded in their conquest of the Soviet Union.


41 posted on 09/01/2019 5:54:22 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

What would have been best is that the Germans succeeded to the point where Stalin and the Bolsheviks were overthrown and the Russians rally behind new leaders and defeat the Nazis.


42 posted on 09/01/2019 5:57:10 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Paal Gulli

The defense of Moscow and the defense of Stalingrad were before American Lend Lease had a substantial impact on the Soviet war effort.


43 posted on 09/01/2019 6:01:43 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: dfwgator

Who would those new leaders have been? Name some of them.


44 posted on 09/01/2019 6:05:40 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: rlmorel

On the day I was born, US Army and Red Army troops met at Torgau in Germany. Those Russian soldiers were subsequently sent to the gulag, simply because they had met and celebrated linking up as well as defeating the German army.


45 posted on 09/01/2019 6:24:24 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: drpix

Also important to Russian victory were the fifteen oil refineries that Fred Koch (father of the Koch brothers) built in the Soviet Union in the ‘20s and ‘30s.


46 posted on 09/01/2019 6:31:26 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Vaquero

“Patton’s death was probably murder.”

I’ve often thought that too.


47 posted on 09/01/2019 6:37:49 PM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Vaquero

“Patton’s death was probably murder.”

I’ve often thought that too.


48 posted on 09/01/2019 6:37:55 PM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Bull Snipe

No. Not at all. One can understand and accept an outcome without accepting it part and parcel.

Of course I wouldn’t support a Nazi victory,


49 posted on 09/01/2019 8:20:04 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m in Warsaw and went to the ceremony. The Poles are quick to mention that both Germany and the Soviet Union attacked Poland. The general opinion of all Poles I’ve talked with is f*+@ the Russians.


50 posted on 09/01/2019 9:51:51 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: rlmorel

Great post. Most long posts meander, not that one. What the Russians did to the captured nations was equally reprehensible.


51 posted on 09/02/2019 2:12:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ( Schumer delenda est.)
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To: neverevergiveup
Just to put it into perspective for you..... russia lost over 1 million 2nd lieutenants in ww2
52 posted on 09/02/2019 4:46:45 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Communists Need To Be Eliminated)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Yeah Vlad, Comrade Stalin cut a deal that put the Mother Russia on Hitler’s side so that Poland could be carved up and 20,000 Polish Army officers and political leaders could be massacred by your side. Russia would likely have remained on Hitler’s side until 1945, but Hitler double-crossed Stalin first.

Congratulations, Russia helped turn the European crisis into a hot war in September 1939 and a lot of Russians paid the ultimate price for his strategic ineptitude.


53 posted on 09/02/2019 6:35:59 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Thank you for saying so.

I have to admit, that “joke” of yours made me snort aloud...as another poster said, there are few places you could effectively put that in, and this was one of them!

What the Soviets did to the Polish officers and men at Katyn Forest was evil enough on its own, but then, to an evil ideology (whose direct descendant were Saul Alinsky and his followers) to never allow a crisis to go to waste, they were probably set up at the beginning to blame the Nazis for the cold blooded murder of 22,000 men simply because...it was probably fun for them.

Like a great big inside joke.

After all, nobody is going to shed tears for a sullied Nazi reputation, whatever that was worth.


54 posted on 09/02/2019 7:06:55 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I have been reading Victor David Hanson’s book on the Second World Wars.

One Chapter is devoted to various sieges, including the unsuccessful German siege of Leningrad. He states that more Russians died at Leningrad than all the WW II related deaths for the USA. Try to grasp that fact.

Americans, even those of us who have read and watched recent British You Tube videos can not grasp the enormous, nay un comprehendable loss of Russian lives in WW II.

BTW...... The book, The Second World Wars is hard.


55 posted on 09/02/2019 7:15:35 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.btyC. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: rlmorel

Variant is: A Polish soldier has a clear shot at a German soldier and at a Russian soldier, and two bullets. What should he do?

Shoot the Russian twice.


56 posted on 09/02/2019 7:21:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ( Schumer delenda est.)
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To: reg45

Those poor bastards were a key example, and they weren’t even captured. I think anyone captured by the Germans was automatically considered corrupted as well by default, with no exceptions.

It boggles the mind, the level of institutional depravity to treat their own men that way.

It is also a black mark of shame on us (the allies) that we readily repatriated Soviet POWs back to their own country, knowing full well by that time what was going to happen to them.

I rank that right up there with our betrayal of Chang Kai Shek, Draza Mihailovic, and later, the South Vietnamese as a stain on our Republic.


57 posted on 09/02/2019 7:25:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
It reminds me of that old joke I remember hearing as a kid:

RUSSIAN SOLDER: Hey! Vasily! Check out this neat trick. There are Germans over in that line of trenches. I can get one to stick up his head so I can shoot him...watch! "HANS! HEY, HANS, IS THAT YOU?"

GERMAN SOLDER: Yah! (pops head up, BLAM! and is shot dead by Sergei)

RUSSIAN SOLDER: Wow, that's great, Sergei! That really worked! Let me try it! "HANS! HEY HANS, ARE YOU OVER THERE?" (no answer) Huh. Let me try again. "HANS! IS THAT YOU?"

GERMAN SOLDER 1: "VASILY? IS THAT YOU, VASILY?"

VASILY: (eagerly sticks his head up) YAH! IT'S ME! (BLAM!)

58 posted on 09/02/2019 7:41:52 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: rlmorel

Hans was dead the second time he called him.


59 posted on 09/02/2019 7:44:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ( Schumer delenda est.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

LOL...I think it is due to the fact that to non-Germans, every other German is named “Hans”...and to non-Russians, every other Russian is named “Vasily”...;)


60 posted on 09/02/2019 2:13:07 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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