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To: BobL

Sorry...This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.

“he biggest one being that fat, including bacon, from meat DOES NOT become human body fat, at all - all human body fat comes from carbs”

First, I love meat - almost never go without it in a meal. However, if you eat more calories than you burn with any food macro, your body will make fat with the excess. There are simple biochemical pathways in the body that ensure this.

Only carbs make people fat is an out and out falsehood. Eating too much is what makes people fat.


14 posted on 08/24/2019 6:45:33 AM PDT by Codeflier (Tagline for sale.)
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To: Codeflier

“Only carbs make people fat is an out and out falsehood. Eating too much is what makes people fat.”

I guess you have your set of facts, and I have mine. Mine is that without carbs, you will not get fat. If you eat a lot without carbs, you may not lose weight, but you will not get fat.


16 posted on 08/24/2019 6:54:55 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Codeflier; BobL

“Eating too much is what makes people fat.”

Arguably, insulin makes the body fat. And insulin resistance from too many, too frequent intakes of carbs will put the fat into a vault that is very hard to access. And since the body won’t access it, it becomes a one way street - fat being added and not withdrawn since the body assumes it WILL get more food.

Think of it as a freezer and a fridge. If the body has learned it can always get food from the fridge, it never needs to empty the freezer. And meanwhile, it shoves any excess in the fridge into the freezer. One way only.

Keeping carbs in a diet works fine provided one doesn’t eat to excess and keeps a good mixture of food going in so insulin won’t spike hard. Also, humans are like wild animals: we store when there is excess so we can stay alive when deprived. Except in modern society, winter never cuts down our food supply so we are never deprived.

Calories in, calories out is incredibly simplistic. It has an element of truth. If you cut calories enough, and long enough, we will lose weight. No one can live on air. But it also ignores a very important truth - we are animals, not cars, and our hormones play a huge role in our bodies use of calories.

It isn’t either/or. Calories play a role, but so do hormones. Hormones can give you cravings. In my experience, being HUNGRY is easy to tolerate. CRAVINGS are not. And poor nutritional choices - with encouragement from the USDA and the American Heart Association - cause cravings. Craving cause a drive to eat, and often a drive to eat the thing that is killing us.


Back to topic: I suspect a lot of ratings on Amazon are utterly bogus, particularly with Chinese products. I’d much rather trust the government (which I don’t) than amazon’s ratings of Chinese goods. I’ve also noticed in searching for a product, Amazon seems to drive me to see ONLY cheap Chinese goods. I strongly suspect Amazon has been hacked by the Chinese government. Certainly manipulated.


35 posted on 08/24/2019 7:28:04 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Codeflier

Eating Carbs makes me hungry...for more carbs...so I avoid them.


38 posted on 08/24/2019 7:33:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: Codeflier

My wife’s boss lost a lot of weight. People asked him if he had a special diet. His response: “Eat less, move more.”


77 posted on 08/24/2019 9:03:28 AM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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