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Bears And A Lion; Victims Should Have Had A Gun
Ammoland ^ | 21 August, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/23/2019 5:02:58 AM PDT by marktwain

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In several cases this summer, there were times where you read what happened and say, they should have had a gun. Fatal bear attacks are rare. Attacks, where someone is injured, happen much more frequently. Close calls, without injury, are more common yet. Here are some cases from this summer where it seems the people involved would have been well served by the availability of a defensive firearm.

It is better for everyone concerned if the attacking animal is killed by the people immediately involved. It takes the authorities time and considerable money to respond.

On 26 June 2019, 54-Year-Old Alex Woods was doing his job, searching for diseased trees in British Columbia, Canada. As he started down a steep slope, alone in the wilderness, he was charged by a 200 lb black bear in a clear, predatory, attack. He tried to access bear spray, but could not get the cap off. He kicked the bear, then was able to access his hatchet.  From outside online.com:

“So then the bear dropped down from the tree,” he continues. “And as it was doing that, I’d reached into the back of my vest. The zipper’s broken, so I was able to get at my hatchet fast. But the bear was right back on me by then, so I just sank the hatchet into its head.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bearattack; mountainlionattack; selfdefense
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One of the main advantages of firearms for defense against wild animals, is the animal is usually killed by the person who is at the scene.
1 posted on 08/23/2019 5:02:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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If you have a gun, chances are you won’t be a victim.


2 posted on 08/23/2019 5:07:49 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

I’ve always considered making lots of noise and even bear spray as the equivalent of a “soft kill” in naval warfare parlance, the equivalent to electronic spoofing. Whereas, lots of well-aimed lead downrange is the more believable hard kill. Yes, I understand the problem of killing a charging bear, but a charging bear isn’t going to be deterred by a bit of spray or noise. YMMV.


3 posted on 08/23/2019 5:21:02 AM PDT by Pecos (My rights as an individual are not subject to a public vote.)
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In Colorado yesterday they euthanized two mountain lions because they both fit the description of one that attacked a 9 year old boy. Head injuries.

He was in his own neighbourhood, running across the street to play with a friend when he was attacked.

Seems like just about every day the Denver news has a bear sighting story.

4 posted on 08/23/2019 5:21:57 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: marktwain

he did land a shot to the head with his hatchet.

i didn’t read the story, but it must have worked cause he lived to tell about it.


5 posted on 08/23/2019 5:24:53 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Vaquero; marktwain

“...If you have a gun, chances are you won’t be a victim...”

Truest statement, ever. Applicable to ANY situation involving imminent danger, by animal OR feral human.


6 posted on 08/23/2019 5:25:16 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: real saxophonist

We just two bears at our place. No one calls anyone. We don’t want the bears to be hurt.


7 posted on 08/23/2019 5:34:57 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: marktwain
The Revenant (2015) Bear vs DiCaprio
8 posted on 08/23/2019 5:35:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CodeToad

I Love bears. I hunt deer. I would only shoot a bear if I was about to be attacked. My hunting buddy and hunting land owner gets visited on occasion by bears sometimes with cubs. They’ve walked in in the middle of my friend sitting around his campfire. Mom bear on one side and cubs on the other. When mama bear realized the situation she made a loud noise and ran and the cubs followed her. It could have gone very wrong at that point.


9 posted on 08/23/2019 6:02:40 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: marktwain

They tell you yell to scare away any bears that may be in the area, but a gun can yell louder than I can and doesn’t make you sound like a moron running through the woods.


10 posted on 08/23/2019 6:03:51 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: marktwain

I say kill every gdm bear and lion alive. Let hunters “cull the herds.”


11 posted on 08/23/2019 6:21:21 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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“I say kill every gdm bear and lion alive. Let hunters “cull the herds.”...........

They only live now because we allow it.


12 posted on 08/23/2019 6:33:17 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: CodeToad

About two months ago, the lady that lives just up the road from me (less than 1/4 mile) saw a bear in her yard. About 95% of my 27 acres is in forest. We have not spotted the bear, but we have seen tracks we think to be bear. I live in north Alabama and my property bounds a small river.


13 posted on 08/23/2019 6:42:48 AM PDT by RatRipper
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.....they euthanized two mountain lions because they both fit the description of one that attacked a 9 year old

They both fit the description so they were both brutally murdered? They used profiling. That’s racist! Unless one of the lions confessed under the direction of his attorney they should have both been given a good talking to and let go.


14 posted on 08/23/2019 6:50:04 AM PDT by birdsman (NAAWP)
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To: Vaquero

getting between mom and cubs is the best way to get hurt by a bear!


15 posted on 08/23/2019 8:20:16 AM PDT by allwrong57
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Absolutely. The whole thing happened so quick it was over before they knew what happened. It was night the bears were probably use to looking for food that they’re use to scrounging by the fire pit as garbage is also burned there. These are eastern black bear. They can be extremely dangerous but not like Grizz. They tend to be shy.


16 posted on 08/23/2019 8:35:02 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: real saxophonist
Seems like just about every day the Denver news has a bear sighting story.

Ever since CO stupidly passed a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT to bad baiting and dogs as a method of bear hunting.

17 posted on 08/23/2019 10:30:33 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: birdsman

If it were San Fran-ditso, they would re-categorize the “predator” to “lone, hungry kitty cat.”


18 posted on 08/23/2019 11:04:46 AM PDT by GnuThere
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To: Pecos

Shot placement.

With good shot placement bear die as quickly as other animals.

I have shot a fair number of them.


19 posted on 08/23/2019 1:11:56 PM PDT by riverrunner ( o the public,)
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Our neighborhood of about twenty heavily-forested seasonal houses got visited for the first in peoples' memories since 1949! (None before that).

Two black bears (probably sisters) scrounged a neighbor's garbage can box area. (Probably unsuccessfully).

Barking from a neighbor's 30-pound terrier sent both up trees! The same two were likely spotted six miles away one week later. Through practice, I've managed to get pretty good at barking! ;)

20 posted on 08/23/2019 4:37:59 PM PDT by Does so (To continue in English, press 2...)
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