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Exclusive: El Paso suspect's mother called police concerned about gun
cnn ^ | 8/7/20190 | Scott Glover and Majlie de Puy Kamp

Posted on 08/07/2019 7:56:31 PM PDT by bitt

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To: Irish Eyes
If this is true, it was a mother’s cry for help. She knew there was a problem. The police did nothing.

Which is why MORE gun control laws are not going to change anything.

41 posted on 08/07/2019 9:01:25 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: chulaivn66

From what the mother supposedly said up to this point, you’re right on.


42 posted on 08/07/2019 9:03:07 PM PDT by griffin
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To: bgill; Irish Eyes
Sounds typical. Most times, cops can’t be bothered nor will they do anything until after something bad happens.

So you’re okay with the police bypassing & trampling constitutional rights based on “my son bought a gun I’m scared of”. Then you’re also a supporter of the Red Flag legislation being proposed.
Hindsight is 20/20. You can’t retroactively blame the police if the mother gave no personal information nor the kid had been in criminal trouble e Er before. Most police agencies don’t have the manpower or psychic mutants to have PreCrime Divisions. Otherwise, you’re hypocritical saying that it’s okay to suspend constitutional rights based on spurious information.
43 posted on 08/07/2019 9:05:23 PM PDT by brent1a
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To: piasa

it’s just weird. He probably went past a dozen drive through places. If he wanted to kill people doesn’t it seem weird to kill people and forget you were hungry?


44 posted on 08/07/2019 9:08:38 PM PDT by McGavin999 (injustice Roberts repeatedly making a mockery of the rule of law)
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To: gundog

True


45 posted on 08/07/2019 9:13:18 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: bitt

Replay of the Richard Reid, muzzard jetliner SHOE bomber:

Dad was suspicious and deathly concerned about his son’s activities, thought they’d prove lethal if no intervention.

Called FBI, talked their ear off with a litany of detail about his son.

FBI DID NOTHING.

Same with the Boston Pressure-Cooker bombers; Russia screamed their heads off about the dangers this scummy pair posed.

Our Finest did nothing.

It’s like they WANT bad stuff to happen.


46 posted on 08/07/2019 9:14:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Irish Eyes

No one reported the crime? No report. No incident.


47 posted on 08/07/2019 9:20:10 PM PDT by chulaivn66 ("...government will follow its natural tendency to despotism.")
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To: funfan

One problem with mental issues is there is the social stigma...no parent wants it widely known their kid has issues. There may be the old fashioned sense of shame, and then there is the fervent hope that he’ll grow out of it or keep it under control and meanwhile, making it public would ruin his chances of landing a job, etc. The father thinks he’s a therapist, they probably kept their fears in the family.


48 posted on 08/07/2019 9:21:49 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: chulaivn66
No one reported the crime? No report. No incident.

If he had threatened someone in the home there might not have been a reported crime. It was her son.

49 posted on 08/07/2019 9:23:39 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

If your Mom calls the police and says she is worried because you have guns and she thinks you are not stable enough to safely have them then IMO the police should take the call VERY seriously.

It’s your Mom for goodness sake, not some idiot neighbor or whatever. The concerns of a parent should be a huge red-flag.


50 posted on 08/07/2019 9:30:19 PM PDT by Bobalu (The Nobel Peace Prize doesn't deserve Trump.)
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To: Irish Eyes

Does a supplier ship product without a purchase order being filed? No police report means no complaint. No complaint means no crime. No crime, no filing with the City or District Attorney. The only record would be a log entry by the officer or employee taking the call. No police action. She would have accomplished more calling a psychologist; but from what was mentioned, since they are dealing with an adult, that’s another can of worms.


51 posted on 08/07/2019 9:33:47 PM PDT by chulaivn66 ("...government will follow its natural tendency to despotism.")
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To: bgill

Across the street from us lives a Somali refugee mother and two adult sons. We live in a very nice neighborhood, I don’t know how they pay their bills since none of them work. One son is scary, obviously mentally ill, probably schizophrenic. The police are called out via 911 to this home at least once a month, it’s always problems with the mentally ill son.

I have expressed my concerns about the situation to the police responding to the frequent 911 calls. The police tell me there is nothing they can do, the mother won’t press charges against her son. Until the mentally ill son commits a violent crime there is nothing the police can do.

Just peachy.......


52 posted on 08/07/2019 9:35:28 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 ( "Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves”)
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To: bitt

CYA


53 posted on 08/07/2019 9:39:48 PM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter)
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To: familyop

https://cbs4local.com/news/local/el-paso-shooting-suspects-mother-went-to-police-weeks-before-el-paso-shooting-08-08-2019

EL PASO, Texas (CBS4) — An attorney for the family of the man charged in the El Paso Walmart shooting rampage says the man’s mother contacted police weeks before the rampage out of concern that her son had a rifle, according to CNN.

Dallas attorney Chris Ayres confirmed to The Associated Press that the call was made to police in Allen, a Dallas suburb. He declined to give details, but he and fellow attorney R. Jack Ayres told CNN that Patrick Crusius’ mother contacted the Allen Police Department to ask about an “AK” type firearm Crusius owned.

The attorneys said the mother was only seeking information and wasn’t motivated by a concern that her son was a threat to anybody. They also said the mother didn’t identify herself or her son in the call.

Sgt. Jon Felty, Allen police spokesman, said there was no record of such a call and he wasn’t aware of such a call.

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54 posted on 08/07/2019 9:41:32 PM PDT by bitt (Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul - Douglas MacArthur)
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To: chulaivn66

yep, summed it up nicely.


55 posted on 08/07/2019 9:46:19 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: griffin

>>He’s immature and inexperienced? And cops are supposed to act on THAT? Gimme a break.

Provide something of substance like an actual threat or past action. Sheesh!<<

Yeah, it’s scary the number of people who think the police should have acted based on that information.


56 posted on 08/07/2019 9:57:08 PM PDT by Tejas Rob
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To: bitt

She’s worried about being sued by next of kin.


57 posted on 08/07/2019 9:57:51 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: reformedliberal

re: “I believe 911 calls are automatically ID’d “

There is a non-emergency number that is used for ‘routine’, low priority service calls in Allen ... calling that number is different than dialing 911, one has to give them the call-back number.


58 posted on 08/07/2019 10:01:26 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: bitt

Scripted shooters always involve ignored warnings to police. Sometimes multiple agencies or incidents too, like before the Orlando Pulse attack.


59 posted on 08/07/2019 10:11:18 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Tejas Rob

“Sgt. Jon Felty, Allen police spokesman, said there was no record of such a call and he wasn’t aware of such a call.”


60 posted on 08/07/2019 11:26:20 PM PDT by funfan
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