>>Kalamata: "There are boatloads of evidence for the holocaust, dummy. None for evolutionism."
>>Joe the Science Denier says, "Right, just like a Holocaust denier can spend all day in a Holocaust museum and never see a shred of evidence. It's amazing, really.
See Science Denier Rule #6: "Accuse, accuse, accuse your opponent of whatever you're most guilty."
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>>Kalamata: "As an aside, Dr. David Berlinski of the Discovery Institute, an “evolutionism denier” and therefore a “holocaust denier” by association, according to the dark mind of Alinsky Joe, came from Jewish parents who fled the Nazi’s... "
>>Joe the Science Denier says, "So here's one example where Kalamata could easily tell the truth but chose to lie instead. The truth is, any comparison of different groups of deniers is in the tactics they use to deny, not necessarily any similarity in beliefs.
See Science Denier Rule #6: "Accuse, accuse, accuse your opponent of whatever you're most guilty."
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>>Kalamata: "I asked for scientific evidence, Alinsky Joe, not just-so stories and fake lineages."
>>Joe the Science Denier says, "Right, just like Holocaust deniers see no evidence in a Holocaust museum.
See Science Denier Rule #6: "Accuse, accuse, accuse your opponent of whatever you're most guilty."
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>>Kalamata: "Get a hold of yourself, Alinsky Joe. There is plenty of evidence for the holocaust in a holocaust museum. Go look for yourself! On the other hand, there is no evidence for evolution in a natural history museum."
>>Joe the Science Denier says, "Right, Kalamata will not back down, even though he must realize that he's using the same deniers' tactics. I still maintain that Kalamata, however insulting he seems here, is nowhere near the vulgarians of Holocaust denial.
See Science Denier Rule #8: "If your lies fail to silence him, and you have already labeled him a holocaust denier, you are on your own."
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>>Kalamata: "You can tell the lies of Alinsky Joe are being exposed when he throws out the “Holocaust Card”.
>>Joe the Science Denier says, "In my experience, deniers use the same tactics regardless of their subject."
Alinsky Joe also lies about his experience.
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>>Kalamata: "You are the one using the same debating tactics with the same religious fervor as holocaust deniers?"
>>Joe the Science Denier says, "That is Rule #5, post #272.
He meant to say, see Science Denier Rule#6: "Accuse, accuse, accuse your opponent of whatever you're most guilty."
Narrative: But be careful. If you support the ideology that led to the holocaust, and there is no way anyone would believe his ideology led to the holocaust, if might be better accuse him of something else, such as being a holocaust denier.
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>>Kalamata: "You are more naive than even I thought."
>>Joe the Science Denier says, "That's rule #7.
He finally got one right.
Science Denier Rule#7: "For examples, call him a denier, call science a religion, etc."
Narrative: "Again, be careful. This tactic worked well on all Creation and Intelligent Design scientists until recently; but now, with new discoveries in the genome, and with no supporting discoveries in the fossil record from the time of Darwin until now, the more accomplished scientists can legitimately throw that back in your face. Choose your targets wisely."
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>>Kalamata: "Alinsky Joe became completely unhinged when I asked him for scientific evidence for evolutionism, rather than the typical just-so stories, imaginary tree diagrams, and the wildly imaginative museum mockups that the evolutionism cult typically feeds the unwashed masses."
>>Joe the Science Denier says, ""Unhinged" describes our deniers' responses to actual evidence -- "that's not evidence!" they claim.
See Science Denier Rule #8: "If your lies fail to silence him, and you have already labeled him a holocaust denier, you are on your own."
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>>Kalamata: "Quit denying the fact that there is no evidence for your religion, Alinsky Joe. Either that, or point us to EMPIRICAL, OBSERVABLE, SCIENTIFIC evidence."
>>Joe the Science Denier says, "My religion is Christianity, for which there is lot's of evidence."
Jesus said this:
"He that is not with me is against me." -- Luk 11:23 KJV
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." -- John 3:36 KJV
Therefore, can I assume you believe these Words of Jesus?
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?" -- Mat 19:4-5 KJV
"But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." -- Mar 10:6 KJV
"If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." -- Luk 16:31 KJ
"For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." -- Mat 24:38-39 KJV
"And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all." -- Luk 17:26-27 KJV
"Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed." -- Luk 17:28-30 KJV
There is a lot of detail in those statements. Do you really believe them?
Mr. Kalamata
Yes, properly understood.
I disagree with much of your theological interpretation.