Kalamata:
">>Joe the Science Denier says..." Still rules #5 & #6, post #272.
Kalamata: "We know what God told us.
He had his scribes write it down for us so we would have no excuse."
Exactly right, your opinions are theology, not science.
Kalamata: "I have been seeking those answers that you claim to be "out there" for 7 or 8 years, but all I get are generalities, like the one you just spewed.
No one seems to know where to find the evidence for evolution, or any scientific use for evolution.
But the fanatics are "certain" someone else knows."
Here are two sites which address your search for evolution uses directly:
- Practical applications
- The Value of Science
Kalamata:
"You are so brainwashed you don't even know what science is.
Here, learn from a genius:
Feynman 1999: 'Learn from science that you must doubt the experts...' " Seting aside your use of Rules #5, #6 & #7, Feynman is correct on this point.
Kalamata: "Now that I look back, I think it might have been you who claimed the Bible rejected science, or marginalized it.
Let's see, you wrote:"
Rules #2, #5, #6, #7 & #8.
The Bible is all about God's rule over nature and His power to overrule it.
The Bible doesn't care about natural laws except to show God's control of them.
Kalamata: "It seems you cannot keep track of your own lies, Alinsky Joe."
Still more of Rules #2, #5, #6, #7 .
Kalamata: "I am not an evolutionist, so quit accusing me of being one."
Rule #2.
Kalamata: "I am not a theologian, but thanks for the promotion, anyway.
In a meantime I will continue to expose the faith-based religion disguised as science, called evolutionism."
Rules #1, #2 & #6.
Kalamata claiming Creation events were "natural": "Of course they are. Jesus created everything, including ocean currents..."
Rule #2.
Kalamata: "Only a fool would ignore the science in the Bible."
The Bible is full of good advise for us.
But it also insists that God rules nature and can overrule it.
Kalamata: "Quit lying.
I love natural science.
That is why I despise the religions of evolutionism and uniformitarian "geology" which have corrupted natural science."
Rules #1, #2 .
Kalamata on "theology disguised as science": "That would be you, and all of your fellow evolutionist-faithful."
Rule #5.
Kalamata: "Your fanaticism is to slander those who believe the words of Moses, while parading the religion of evolutionism around as if it were real science."
Rules #2, #6 & #7.
Kalamata: "This may come as a surprise to you, but Christians have no choice but to believe the words of Moses: from the creation narrative, to the flood narrative, and forward:"
First, those words do not mean what you claim.
Second, they are not science.
Kalamata: "I speak for real scientists, not evolutionists."
Rules #2 & #6.
Kalamata: "I am here to defend science from the corruption of the religion of evolutionism."
Rules #2 & #6.
Kalamata: "How can you defend something you don't understand?"
As best as I understand.
Kalamata: "But, within this decade, I was encouraged by a friend to take a close look at the strata.
I soon realized there was no way there could be millions of years, or even years between those layers -- between any of them: a few months maybe, but not years.
Once you see it, you cannot unsee it!"
Rules #1, #2, #6 & #9.
Kalamata: "Now, without the baggage of "millions of years" and "common descent," the science of life and earth geology is crystal clear."
Rules #1, #2, #6 & #9. ![]()
>>Joe said, "The Bible is all about God's rule over nature and His power to overrule it. The Bible doesn't care about natural laws except to show God's control of them."
The Bible doesn't care, but God cares.
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>>Kalamata: "Only a fool would ignore the science in the Bible."
>>Joe said, "The Bible is full of good advise for us. But it also insists that God rules nature and can overrule it.
It is also full of science and history, along with the way of salvation, which is via the gospel.
"For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" -- Rom 10:12-15 KJV
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>>Kalamata: "This may come as a surprise to you, but Christians have no choice but to believe the words of Moses: from the creation narrative, to the flood narrative, and forward:"
>>Joe said, "First, those words do not mean what you claim. Second, they are not science.
The words of Moses and Christ include real science, such as man and woman being created at the beginning of creation, and man becoming alive when God breathed the breath of life into his nostrils! In other words, the first man had a complete body, before he became alive and could breath. Genetic research is only now revealing what God told us from the beginning: that man did not evolve!
Mr. Kalamata
>>Kalamata: "I have been seeking those answers that you claim to be "out there" for 7 or 8 years, but all I get are generalities, like the one you just spewed. No one seems to know where to find the evidence for evolution, or any scientific use for evolution. But the fanatics are "certain" someone else knows."
>>Joe said: "Here are two sites which address your search for evolution uses directly: [Practical applications] [The Value of Science]"
You don't understand science, Joe. Neither of those sites provide any observational evidence for evolution, nor any practical applications of evolutionary theory. For example, one mentions antiobiotic resistance; but that is a result of broken genes, which is devolution, not evolution.
The amateurs at Talkorigins.org did go through the motion of listing a series of hijacked applications for evolution, where none exists, nor has ever existed. But, they gave themselves a way out with these statements:
"Good science need not have any application beyond satisfying curiosity. Much of astronomy, geology, paleontology, natural history, and other sciences have no practical application. For many people, knowledge is a worthy end in itself. "
"Science with little or no application now may find application in the future, especially as the field matures and our knowledge of it becomes more complete. Practical applications are often built upon ideas that did not look applicable originally. Furthermore, advances in one area of science can help illuminate other areas. Evolution provides a framework for biology, a framework which can support other useful biological advances. "
LOL!
Mr. Kalamata