[BroJoeK]

Kalamata: "You are a shameless liar, Alinsky Joe."

No, I'm a shameless truth-teller, but you have yet to violate even one of my discovered "Rules for Deniers", post #272 above.

Kalamata: "I now know why you brought it up.
I could not understand why someone claiming to be a Freeper would stoop as low as a CNN anchor, so I did a little background research from the works of those you admire — well-known bigots such as Dawkins, Shermer, Prothero, et al.."

Calling atheists "bigots" is a bit rich, setting that aside:

1. "Prothero": never heard of before you named him.
   
2. "Dawkins": did hear of, never read, from what I know, Dawkins is an atheist whose theological views I disagree with.
   
3. "Shermer": have read, liked & used his book opposing Holocaust deniers, nothing else.

Kalamata: "I soon learned that the act of applying the label of “holocaust denier” to those who reject the foolishness of evolutionism/atheism was the easiest way of dehumanizing them.
That is, by marginalizing or dehumanizing those who believe in the creation narrative of Moses, athiests have been successful in suppressing opposition to the alternate creation narrative given to them by their prophet, Charlie Darwin."

Here's what I know for certain: nearly 20 years ago, when I debated at length Holocaust deniers, they were vastly more vulgar than Kalamata, but that aside, the rest of their tactics, techniques & patterns were the same as yours. FRiend.
In post #272 above I tried to boil down those similarities into a set of practices I'm calling, "Rules for Deniers".

Kalamata: "That is exactly the same tactic the radical left uses against conservatives when they play the Race Card or the Nazi Card; and that is exactly the same tactic the Nazis used against the Jews.
You will find a lot of holocaust deniers in that mix, but they are okay with Joe as long as they do not criticize Darwin."

I'm saying this: as long as you follow my "Rules for Deniers", you're a denier, period.
Do you want to stop being a denier??
Then break my "rules"! Tell the truth! Stop substituting insults for data.

Kalamata: "When you get tired of trying to dehumanizing me, perhaps you will take the time to show us some scientific evidence for evolutionism."

You can find evidence in any natural-history museum.
You can find explanations in any text book on the subject.

[Kalamata]

>>Kalamata: “You are a shameless liar, Alinsky Joe.”
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “No, I’m a shameless truth-teller, but you have yet to violate even one of my discovered “Rules for Deniers”, post #272 above.

Those are your rules, Alinsky Joe, and right now you are resorting to Science Denier Rule#6: “Accuse, accuse, accuse your opponent of whatever you’re most guilty. Narrative: Be careful. If you support the ideology that led to the holocaust, and there is no way anyone would believe his ideology led to the holocaust, if might be better to accuse him of something else, such as being a holocaust denier.”

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>>Kalamata: “I now know why you brought it up.
I could not understand why someone claiming to be a Freeper would stoop as low as a CNN anchor, so I did a little background research from the works of those you admire — well-known bigots such as Dawkins, Shermer, Prothero, et al..”
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Calling atheists “bigots” is a bit rich, setting that aside”

Calling a bigot a bigot is a perfectly normal thing to do, Alinsky Joe.

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>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Prothero”: never heard of before you named him.

Yea, sure.

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>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Dawkins”: did hear of, never read, from what I know, Dawkins is an atheist whose theological views I disagree with.

You should take time to get to know him. His religious views are very similar to yours. Evolutionism is his religion, and everything else is wicked!

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>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Shermer”: have read, liked & used his book opposing Holocaust deniers, nothing else.”

Yet, he continues to endorse the religion of evolutionism that led to the holocaust, as do you. That seems hypocritical, don’t you think? How about his upfront attack on Christians by his Foreword-er, Arthur Hertzberg?

“The arguments were now with Christian theologians and prelates, who wanted to establish, above all, that the Hebrew Bible predicted the events that were recorded in the New Testament and that the only proper way to read the Hebrew Bible was as the preamble to Christianity. In answering the Christian contention, Jews were much less free than they had been in Hellenistic times. Anything in Jewish texts that could be read as an attack on the Christian doctrine of the Incarnation was ordered removed by church and civil authorities, and the texts themselves were often burned as purveyors of blasphemous teachings. On occasion during the Middle Ages, representative Jews were forced to appear at disputations with Christian clergy. These dramas were always dangerous. If the Jews made their arguments too gentle, in order to avoid danger, they were likely to be pushed toward immediate conversion to Christianity. If they made them too strong and incisive, these debaters might be punished for lack of respect for the ‘true faith.’ Nonetheless, Jewish refutations of Christianity did appear during the Middle Ages. The books that were written in Christian countries were more than somewhat guarded, but the authors who wrote in the diasporas in Muslim lands were free to say what they liked about Christianity.” [Arthur Hertzberg, in Shermer & Grobman, “Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It.” University of California Press, Rev Ed, 2009, Foreword, pp.xi-xii]

Hertzberg somehow failed to mention that Christians, many of which were Jews, were literally running for their lives until Constantine came along in the 4th century.

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>>Kalamata: “I soon learned that the act of applying the label of “holocaust denier” to those who reject the foolishness of evolutionism/atheism was the easiest way of dehumanizing them. That is, by marginalizing or dehumanizing those who believe in the creation narrative of Moses, athiests have been successful in suppressing opposition to the alternate creation narrative given to them by their prophet, Charlie Darwin.”
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Here’s what I know for certain: nearly 20 years ago, when I debated at length Holocaust deniers, they were vastly more vulgar than Kalamata, but that aside, the rest of their tactics, techniques & patterns were the same as yours. FRiend.”

Impossible. Holocaust deniers lie about the holocaust. Scientists tell the truth about the dangerous religion of evolutionism. Big difference!

Admit it, Alinsky Joe, you are projecting your warped sense of what is not evidence onto those who criticize your religion of evolutionism, like Shermer and Prothero do.

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>>Joe the Science Denier says, “In post #272 above I tried to boil down those similarities into a set of practices I’m calling, “Rules for Deniers”.”

I corrected your logical mistakes in my reply:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3769318/posts?page=282#282

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>>Kalamata: “That is exactly the same tactic the radical left uses against conservatives when they play the Race Card or the Nazi Card; and that is exactly the same tactic the Nazis used against the Jews. You will find a lot of holocaust deniers in that mix, but they are okay with Joe as long as they do not criticize Darwin.”
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “I’m saying this: as long as you follow my “Rules for Deniers”, you’re a denier, period.

Those are your rules, Alinsky Joe, written for you to follow.

My corrections to your rules are written to expose Science Deniers, like you:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3769318/posts?page=282#282

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>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Do you want to stop being a denier?? Then break my “rules”! Tell the truth! Stop substituting insults for data.”

See Science Denier Rule#6: “Accuse, accuse, accuse your opponent of whatever you’re most guilty.”

That is Alinsky Joe’s chief tactic against any who criticize his religion of evolutionism.

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>>Kalamata: “When you get tired of trying to dehumanizing me, perhaps you will take the time to show us some scientific evidence for evolutionism.”
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “You can find evidence in any natural-history museum. You can find explanations in any text book on the subject.

Blah, blah, blah . . . ask for evidence, and all you get is a wild-goose chase.

Mr. Kalamata.