bwest:
"I, as a Christian, have the utmost respect for the faithful who adhere to the literal truth of the Bible."Kalamata: Obviously you do not.
Christ reminded us to believe the words of Moses.
Christians believe the words of Christ."
Neither Christ nor Moses ever said a single word about science as we understand it.
Kalamata: "I believe the words of Christ and of Moses, and you do not respect me because I dare to challenge your faith in the pseudo-science of evolutionism."
What you here call "pseudo-science" is, in fact, real science, natural-science by definition, and there is no other recognized definition for science.
Natural-science, by definitions, does not deal in words like "belief", "faith" or "truth", but rather in confirmed observations (="facts") and falsifiable explanations (="hypotheses" or "theories").
Basic evolution is a well-confirmed theory based on literal mountains of confirmed observations.
The Bible does not condemn science as we understand it, but does tell us to be fruitful, to multiply, to prosper, replenish and have dominion over life on Earth.
Those imply, to me at least, careful study & understanding of natural processes.
Kalamata to bwest: "Your sanctimonious attitude..."
"Sanctimonious attitude" is what I'm seeing from Kalamata.
Kalamata: "The only rational defense for your faith is scientific evidence for common descent, which you cannot provide."
In fact there are literal mountains of evidence -- including billions of fossils collected in hundreds of thousands of species -- each one showing transitional elements with species both before and, if any, after.
The fact that Kalamata refuses to see, much less recognize evidence for what it is, does not mean it isn't there. ![]()
>>Neither Christ nor Moses ever said a single word about science as we understand it.
You are remarkably unlearned. Moses outlined the creation process, the global flood, the dividing of the nations by language, and finally the dividing of the earth. Christ told us that man and woman were created at the beginning of creation.
What else do you need? The endorsement of an atheist?
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>>What you here call “pseudo-science” is, in fact, real science, natural-science by definition, and there is no other recognized definition for science. Natural-science, by definitions, does not deal in words like “belief”, “faith” or “truth”, but rather in confirmed observations (=”facts”) and falsifiable explanations (=”hypotheses” or “theories”).
Basic evolution is a well-confirmed theory based on literal mountains of confirmed observations.”
There are no observable facts supporting the religion of evolutionism. It is strictly faith-based.
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>>The Bible does not condemn science as we understand it, but does tell us to be fruitful, to multiply, to prosper, replenish and have dominion over life on Earth. Those imply, to me at least, careful study & understanding of natural processes.
No. God was simply telling us that plants and animals multiply after their respective kinds, which is observable science. There are no exceptions, either in life, nor in the fossil record.
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>>”Sanctimonious attitude” is what I’m seeing from Kalamata.
No, that would be bwest, and now you.
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>>In fact there are literal mountains of evidence — including billions of fossils collected in hundreds of thousands of species — each one showing transitional elements with species both before and, if any, after.”
There is not a shred of evidence in the fossil record for common descent. The observable evidence supports the biblical concept of the created kind and devolution, not evolution.
The fossil record also supports the the biblical narrative with abrupt appearance followed by stasis, and disparity before diversity.
The geological column supports a global flood with its widespread uneroded, unbioturbated sedimentary layers, loaded with marine fossils in virtually every layer, including the topmost ones. The folding, not cracking, of the sedimentary layers covering mountain ranges points to geological upheaval while the sedimentary layers were still pliable.
You are welcome to provide evidence for common descent, but I won’t hold my breath, because there is none.
Mr. Kalamata