Posted on 08/01/2019 7:53:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Texas is not as far along as California in demographic change, plus I think there are more moderate and conservative Latinos is Texas. And Texas does not have as large an Asian-American population, a group who also tend to vote for the Dims.
I never blamed voters. Arnold ran as a conservative, governed as a liberal and then people associated his failures with conservatism. I sat in bars in Southern California at the end of his term and and heard many many times how Arnold wrecked the state and proved that conservative stuff doesn’t work. I mean, people were willing to give Jerry Brown another chance after Arnold.
No, he wasn’t Blackmailed.
When all four Voter Initiatives failed, he simply said well, the People have spoken and that was that.
It is easy to blame Arnold for everything, but at the time he was the only Republican who stood a chance of winning the Governor’s Election. Like I said, it was Arnold or Cruz Bustamante.
I liked Tom McClintock but he didn’t have snowball’s chance in hell even though other FReepers thought he did. In a heavy GOP District Tom is the guy. Statewide he wasn’t.
“A veiled anti-trump screed from NR”
Yup. It took a while to get there but, sure enough, the author did.
please post the text once. It’s really hard to try to read an article that keeps repeating paragraphs.
#2 Agreed.
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I recall lots of LEGAL Latino immigrants to California were in favor of fixing the ILLEGAL immigration problem. It affected them even more than other Californians because the illegals were stealing jobs from the legal immigrants. So I doubt the argument that the GOP lost Latino voters because of 187.
This has been shown to be the case over and over again.
“In fact, 88 percent of Democrats and 71 percent of independents (as well as 45 percent of Republicans) perceive immigration to be a benefit to the state. ”
I hate to break it to the author but this data that he quotes blows his own thesis for this article right out of the water. Methinks he’s talking out of both sides in a lame effort to say that The GOP needs to return to dignified and tame elitism. Does he really think in these days that arguing for fiscal conservatism, lower taxes and balanced budgets in this late day in California is going to bring voters who are now voting Democrat over to the Republicans? Really?
The Republicans allowed Loretta Sanchez to steal Bob Dornan’s seat in 1996.
As I stated, he ran on the Gray Davis Budget and he got four Initiatives on the Ballot which failed. He simply gave up and then his Social Liberal side came out.
Doesn’t matter anyway, it’s water under the Bridge.
It's also a classic example of gaslighting, where the denial of evident facts forces victims to question their own understanding and perception of reality.
But never fear, born & bred CA natives such as myself know the truth. The state used to be white, now it's hispanic; it's really not any more complicated than that.
NR and other paid organs can attempt to establish confusing narratives and plausible explanations in anticipation of similar push back in TX, but it's really a wasted effort. The days of controlled narrative are long past; now the truth is easy to determine.
I believe you have my Post confused with someone else’s.
I didn’t Post an Article.
correct. apologies.
“What killed the GOP in california?”
The GOP was toast in the early 80’s, almost 40 years ago. What killed the GOP in California was a combination of liberal lies, greed, stacking the deck, and filling the voting coffers with illegal voters through welfare programs to keep it that way. A vast majority of the populous is trapped there and at the mercy of what they are given to just keep them alive. And more arrive every day uneducated or uninformed about the ambush they are walking into.
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NR will be replacing MAD Magazine as a political satire Magazine. It’s a shame that NR is being ruined by antiTrumpers.
“I lived in CA most of my Life. The CA I grew up in bears no resemblance to what it is today. The BIG change began in the 90’s after Bill Clinton was Elected POTUS.”
Same here. I really saw it begin to change when BC ordered closed so many of the US military facilities in the state.
My brother lived in California for decades, solid R voter, very conservative. Built a successful business there, raised his family and buried his wife there.
Right now my brother is about to close on selling his home, has already relocated his business to Texas. He said before California went blue it didn’t matter what the voters wanted; things they passed didn’t seem to matter, people they elected would not stand up to the socialists. They kept going left and people like him were expected to have no say so but keep paying higher taxes.
I am not a Californian but from the perspective of an outsider who spends a lot of time in the state, it seems the GOP was on life support since the 90s at least but a republican could still get elected statewide. Schwarzenegger pulled the plug though.
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