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To: metmom

Who made the promise?
The cloth, all by itself?

...the words on the cloth were sewn or embroidered on, as a memento of the promise.

That promise was not to everyone, but to the carmelite.


588 posted on 07/30/2019 4:26:26 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

What is written on there is written on there.

You tell me.

It’s a Catholic thing.

Is it a lie or not?

Will someone who dies wearing it suffer hellfire or not?


592 posted on 07/30/2019 4:40:23 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: grey_whiskers
That promise was not to everyone, but to the carmelite.

So what about all the people who are told that it would do that for them and they are not carmelites?

So that blanket statement written on there cannot apply to ALL people.

Where does it tell them that?

593 posted on 07/30/2019 4:41:49 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: grey_whiskers; metmom; Iscool; Elsie
Who made the promise?

The apparition.

The cloth, all by itself?

Vendors are selling these for around $11 depending on the website.

...the words on the cloth were sewn or embroidered on, as a memento of the promise.

Nope. The words on the idol were the words of the apparition.

That promise was not to everyone, but to the carmelite.

dude....really?

In the year 1251, in the town of Aylesford in England, Our Lady appeared to St. Simon Stock, a Carmelite. She handed him a brown woolen scapular and said, “This shall be a privilege for you and all Carmelites, that anyone dying in this habit shall not suffer eternal fire.” In time, the Church extended this magnificent privilege to all the laity who are willing to be invested in the Brown Scapular of the Carmelites and who perpetually wear it.

https://www.sistersofcarmel.com/brown-scapular-information.php

As you're attempting to defend this idolatry, do you wear one of these?

Perhaps a miraculous medal as well?

603 posted on 07/30/2019 5:31:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grey_whiskers

A demonic apparition cannot make a promise which ONLY God could make and keep. I see your problem now ...


605 posted on 07/30/2019 5:33:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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