[metmom]

They do not understand the new birth and the flesh and the relation between the two is the only thing I can figure.

Romans 7 explains that struggle quite well.

[grey_whiskers]

Which contradicts the rhetoric of yours in post 562 this thread, and I quote the exact line,

So technically, while true that nothing you can do or not do can cost you your salvation, the believer would ask, *Why would I want to*?

So St. Paul explains in Romans 7...the struggle.

And by your earlier argument, no real believer would ever struggle with sin.

So by your infallible judgment, St. Paul must not have been a real Christian.

Which was the reason for my follow-up posts 563 and 568.

Which is exactly why I brought up Romans 7, because you were looking like a liberal Democrat or an SJW, getting carried away on your own rhetoric.