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To: vladimir998
If it is real, it would make no difference whatsoever. Salvation comes ONLY through Faith in Christ as the Savior by Gift of the Holy Spirit. Nothing else matters. Nothing.

There is nothing anywhere in Scripture that tells us to revere artifacts. There is, on the other hand, Scripture that tells us to reject any and all artifact worship.

36 posted on 07/28/2019 7:38:45 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Revere and worship on not synonymous.
40 posted on 07/28/2019 7:41:49 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: GingisK
Nobody worships artifacts, but some are worth reverence
51 posted on 07/28/2019 8:32:13 AM PDT by amihow
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To: GingisK

“If it is real, it would make no difference whatsoever.”

You’re saying facts don’t matter. Seriously, that’s what you’re saying. If the shroud is real, then that means there is physical proof of the life, death and resurrection of Christ. How can that possibly not matter?

“Salvation comes ONLY through Faith in Christ as the Savior by Gift of the Holy Spirit. Nothing else matters. Nothing.”

Salvation comes through Grace. Grace comes through faith and Christ’s works in us. It’s easier for a man who has no faith to come to faith if he has reasons for faith. Facts are reasons FOR faith.

“There is nothing anywhere in Scripture that tells us to revere artifacts.”

You might want to read Acts 19:12. You also might want to ask yourself why someone like Spurgeon could write “This ark was the object of great reverence and very fitly so...” about the Ark of the Covenant. https://www.spurgeongems.org/vols25-27/chs1621.pdf

“There is, on the other hand, Scripture that tells us to reject any and all artifact worship.”

No one is worshiping the shroud. The scriptures also tell us not to lie. Don’t do it.


54 posted on 07/28/2019 8:57:33 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: GingisK

By your wisdom you are to cherish nothing, no thing. How dare you believe your words and thoughts have merit. To be true to yourself you must be a worm.


78 posted on 07/28/2019 10:43:00 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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