Posted on 07/28/2019 6:02:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
You are not alone bro. The rest of us can say pretty much the same thing. 👍😁
Did you thank him for the gravel in your gut and the spit in your eye? 😁👍
“The Holy Spirit works in many different ways”
Yes, but only within the confines of the Holy Word of God. You want proof just look at your pope that was selected according to the unholy spirit of your church that proclaims his infallibility. That happened outside Scripture and according the the word and tradition of man and we see just how that has worked out.
“And I don’t hear even the most fire-breathing fundamentalists getting all bent out of shape over the various creeds; even though they are not recited in Scripture.”
And I don’t know of any that consider it equal to Holy Scripture either, but you do in error. If it agrees with Holy Scripture then no it’s not a problem, but you romans have more traditions that break the law of God and therefore or evil.
Context, I said it before that if it agrees with the Bible then it is acceptable (Trinity included), but when your roman church makes up traditions that enslaves her members that is evil.
You can't pull rank on God.
It doesn't matter if it goes against your denomination's stompy-foot insistence, either.
Didja notice I referred to Catholic nuns as well as out-and-out Pentecostals?
The point is obeying Him (left out for the moment is whether it happens to be the Father, or the Son, or the Spirit, in any particular case, as they all outrank me. As well as any and all denominations.) Also, since 1 John says believe not EVERY spirit, that implies that there are spirits who you're *supposed* to believe. Presumably, that'd be angels ("messengers"), who for some reason, He sometimes sends either to give a message, or to protect, or strengthen.
As far as the selection of Francis the Commie mole...
It also (according to a couple of other posters on this thread) violated established Canon Law.
There are a couple of pre-existing prophecies within the Catholic sphere, which are given differing amounts of credibility (Third prophecy of Fatima, IIRC), as well as a revelation to one of the earlier popes in the late 1800s...that make me not too surprised about Francis the Commie mole; and the lavender mafia in the Vatican.
Things that make you go hmmmmm.
But any other denominations' traditions (including sola scriptura which is doctrinally a Johnny-come-lately, and is not found in scripture, no matter how often you misquote 1 Timothy 3)...we'll, they're ok, because they're 'our' traditions.
But there are a couple of other issues which are even more important.
First, not everything taught by Rome is necessarily a "made-up" tradition: some were revealed (e.g. Jesus to Aquinas "Thou hast written well of the sacrament of my death"), some were hammered out over time as a result of the progressive revelation of the Holy Spirit to the church (e.g. rejection of the Arian heresy and others). Note that I am careful to include as examples, for this purpose, only things which Catholics and dratted Protties have in common.
The other issue, is just because the Holy Spirit has moved on from a particular practice (or, possibly, our apostate age has fallen away from it), that doesn't mean that continuing in the practice must necessarily be *sinful*. By analogy, think of one of those Hawaiian lava flows -- you've got a thin crust on top, but the lava below is red hot and keeps moving and flowing. When the lava flow has gone by, the rock solidifies; but it's still genuinely result of the lava and not a fraud or fake.
“You can’t pull rank on God.”
That’s all you can say... well I guess when you haven’t a leg to stand on that’s the standard answer.
“denomination’s stompy-foot insistence, either.”
I don’t have a denomination I have a personal relationship with God the Father through His Son Jesus Christ. I’ll leave the denominational stuff to you cult types you all are much better at it.
“Also, since 1 John says believe not EVERY spirit, that implies that there are spirits who you’re *supposed* to believe.”
Yes if it is within the already established Word of God not a new made up doctrine such as the worship of dead saints or Mary.
You believe Fatima was a genuine visitation by the Mother of Jesus? LOL explains a lot of your ramblings and insults.
“e.g. Jesus to Aquinas “Thou hast written well of the sacrament of my death”
So you say, but since it disagrees with the Holy Word of God therefore it wasn’t Jesus it was a demon, Gal 1:8
A very good example of that is the “maryoligy” dogma it’s clearly from the pits of hell as it is completely against the entire Word of God. I suggest you read about the church of Thyatira that way you can clearly see the fate of your cult.
Circular reasoning, see also reasoning, circular.
As well as slander.
When you actually read a lot of the lives of the saints, you find out Jesus was very active in their lives, and they encountered a lot of resistance for it. And they're the first ones to insist they're not worthy of any credit; one I was reading about petitioned her Mother Superior to sell her to Jesus as "his donkey" as an act of devotion.
When you think about what donkeys are like, ... not much room for worship there.
For Mary...that's the other fundamental (har!) difference that I can see which most often comes up between Protestants and Catholics; and in a way, it depends on sola scriptura: for that doctrine holds that only the inspired scripture is valid, whereas Catholic teaching (and Orthodox) is that you have to rely on the historical teaching of the church, you can't just go interpreting scripture all on your lonesome.
And so the reverence of Mary, immaculate conception, etc. etc., all come from different historical teachings of the Church.
And the visions and apparitions of Mary -- are Mary warning us to pray for peace and for God's Mercy, and warning of lots of problems should people not pray.
And then there's the Virgin of Guadalupe. Responsible for a whole truckload of conversions to Christianity.
Can't find a whole lot to complain about there.
Can you (without looking it up) tell me what it was Aquinas wrote?
(I even mistyped it myself. 404--Lack of Coffee Error).
Cause if you can't, then you don't know whether it agrees with the Word of God...
One of the messages of Fatima in 1917 was to pray for Russia: that if they did not pray, the errors of Russia would be promulgated throughout the entire world.
Can you say Communist?
I can envisage no way that an urgent entreaty for prayer to prevent the spread of Communism, can be Satanic.
You believe the FAtima deception? LOL, amazing how wrong some people WANT to be and how easily they are taken in by apparitions. Have you seen the pictures taken at Fatima during the ‘event’? Couple of good frames of that UFO over the crowd. Eyewitnesses even identified it as a silver disc that buzzed the crowd. LOL, you are a Fatima believer! Yeah, satan will have no trouble fooling you with his signs and lying wonders, after the Body of ALL believers since Pentecost are out of his way. Don’t take the Mark.
Especially when that error killed 100 million people over the next century.
“Aquinas”
If you rc’s would read and study the Holy Word of God instead of all the other writers/commentators you would see your errors.
First thing a rc does is quote a writer/commentator instead of the Word of God. I have noticed that the only way a rc can prop up the horrible dogma of the roman church is by anyone else besides the writers of the Bible.
“Johnny-come-lately, and is not found in scripture”
By the way sola Scripture isn’t a new doctrine Jesus used nothing but the Holy Word of God to defeat the Devil in the wilderness, so if the Word of God was good enough for my Savior then it’s good enough for me!
“And then there’s the Virgin of Guadalupe. Responsible for a whole truckload of conversions to Christianity.”
Your version of christianity is according to the church of Thyatira. The virgin of guadalupe is one of the most devilish things I have ever personally seen. It is so far away from the Holy Scriptures that even Satan must be proud of his work. Nice example of worshiping false gods and of exactly what Paul taught against in Gal 1:8.
If you rc’s would read and study the Holy Word of God instead of all the other writers/commentators you would see your errors.
(Shakes head. You're incorrect. But you're too dishonest with yourself and too in love with whatever you've been spoon fed, to even consider the possibility.)
First thing a rc does is quote a writer/commentator instead of the Word of God. I have noticed that the only way a rc can prop up the horrible dogma of the roman church is by anyone else besides the writers of the Bible.
That's because some of the Protestants on this thread, went out of their way to spread rumors about Catholics. By definition, I'm going to have to talk about the Catholics to demonstrate that the accusations were *historically* wrong.
By the way sola Scripture isn’t a new doctrine Jesus used nothing but the Holy Word of God to defeat the Devil in the wilderness, so if the Word of God was good enough for my Savior then it’s good enough for me!
Following Jesus is a good example. But Jesus didn't cast the Legion out of the demoniac by quoting Scripture; nor again from the dumb child whom the disciples didn't exorcise. Nor did hHe quote Scripture when cursing the fig tree or feeding the 5,000.
Come to think of it, He didn't quote Scripture when calling the Apostles ("I saw you under the fig tree").
I conclude you've jumped the gun on your claim.
Sola scriptura is pretty accurate as far as doctrine but not necessarily for contemporary specific instructions. Satan is still at war on the Church and on the whole of humanity, and God wants to give us ongoing instructions, sometimes on what to do, sometimes on what to pray for, sometimes on who to pray for.
Why you can even find Evangelicals on this thread, who had people praying for them before they were converted, that they didn't know about.
Conversions to Christianity are not the work of Satan, nor can they be.
“Can’t find a whole lot to complain about there.”
Most of the world doesn’t read and study the Word of God for themselves they are happy with being spoon fed.
Most people haven’t seen you rc’s worship, kiss, kneel, pray to, and wail at teeth, blood, corpses/mummies, dead gods, a fake savior still dead on a cross, plastic symbols, and beads that promise salvation, but deliver damnation.
Stick with the Word of God and it only and have faith in Jesus Christ and Him alone and be born again.
“You’re simply wrong.”
I’m not right or wrong it’s the Word of God that says worshiping a statue or Mary isn’t godly, but of Satan. Plus Mary was only a virgin for Christ’s birth after that she was a good wife and fulfilled her duty to her husband thus fulfilling the Word of God.
Just a Jesus told the pharisee’s your tradition goes against the Word of God therefore it is of the Devil so goes the roman church.
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