Posted on 07/12/2019 4:57:18 AM PDT by Renkluaf
"The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has discussed the impact of cloud cover on climate in their evaluations, but this phenomenon has never been considered in climate predictions due to the insufficient physical understanding of it," comments Professor Hyodo. "This study provides an opportunity to rethink the impact of clouds on climate. When galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect. The umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era."
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Clouds effect weather?? Whoda thunk it.
Bunk! Rayleigh scattering... Mies scattering...etc. Want the formulas?
Professor Hyodo is attempting to upset settled science.
There’s a consensus, after all.
What is this guy thinking??? /s
Those of us who actually use equations of atmospheric absorption in selected wavelengths have always known that CO2 effects are essentially “in the noise” when it comes to the total effect on the earth’s temperature.
We also are very aware of the deliberate alterations in temperature data perped by those pushing human induced climate change.
We are also also aware of the fact that were climate change to really be critical, the restrictions imposed would be on all, not on those who couldn’t pay the “tributes” to politicians who somehow keep their planes, limos, etc.
And finally, we are very very very very very aware that at the bottom of the intelligence chain are politicians and journalists to whom fifth grade math was essentially calculus on manifolds. (Nope, not your car manifold there, Biden.)
but this phenomenon has never been considered in climate predictions due to the insufficient physical understanding of it
Bunk! Rayleigh scattering... Mies scattering...etc. Want the formulas?
In Theory there is no difference between Theory and Practice.
But, in Practice there is.
WHAT!!!??? You mean the science on clouds isn’t even settled?
"this phenomenon has never been considered in climate predictions due to the insufficient physical understanding of it"
Isn't necessarily that they're wrong, it is that if this is true, then climate "scientists" or at least their modelers have been blowing off an obviously important facet simply because maybe they found it hard? No wonder their models struggle to predict present conditions given past data...
I agree with you, EM wave propagation, scattering, and absorption effects are very well studied, characterized, and modeled - at least in my little corner of the field ;-)
In Theory there is no difference between Theory and Practice.
But, in Practice there is.
Just because you get a number to 10 decimal points, doesn’t mean it is an accurate number.
:: Climate affected by outside forces we have no control over? ::
Can’t be. Money can control weather. Government said so.
Bump 4 l8r
The effect they are referring to is not scattering by clouds, but the increase in cloud formation with an increase in cosmic rays bombarding the lower atmosphere.
Clouds are not any more complex than everything else in their 80 computer models, none of which have proven to have any predictive value. The real reason the modelers exclude cloud canopy is because it is a negative feedback that does not advance their goal of increasing taxes and growing big government, the only employer out there for climate scientologists.
Higher life forms would not have been possible on Earth without first building up a highly complex climate buffering system made up of lower life forms. For example there is a saltwater algae that emits a chemical to induce more cloud cover when sunshine is not to its liking. There are many millions of other species that act as a biological buffer needed for higher life forms to have evolved over millions of years. There are around 200 tons of living biomass per human stabilizing most anything us 200 pound humans are doing.
I’ve been bringing this up for years - all these stupid studies for these billion dollar groups that do nothing all ignore water vapor in their estimates
How the hell can you ignore a water vapor when you’re talking about the earths climate and the influx of radiation and the reflection of radiation
?
Of course you can’t because it’s the most important element of all - but they just go on their merry way
the fact that they’ve tried to target carbon dioxide, which is essential to life on planet earth , is quite laughable
They’re starting to get desperate as you see , as they try to call it a climate crisis now
Crazy Bernie, I’m out of brains , and all these screaming leftists are completely jumping up and down , and demanding that we do something just something about the perils that we’re getting ourselves into!
It’s actually getting fairly funny to watch
They’d love to tax water. Don’t get me wrong
Water tax !
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