Posted on 07/06/2019 8:58:18 AM PDT by Kaslin
SJW patting themselves on the back over how green they are
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I have had solar for two years now and its great in SC. I will say that had I not had the Feds paying 30 pct and SC paying 25 pct of the total cost back to me in tax credits I likely would not have done it. In June I would have had a $300 electric bill but it was $28 due to solar.
Meanwhile, the utilities are raising rates EVERY year from 5 to 9 pct. Factor that in and if you live in the south or southwest solar is a win.
Wow such a hit piece here on FR against solar.
I have about 120 panels. I have 3 rentals. With the benefit of being on the grid, I have essentially no power bill for myself or the rentals. Many of the panels block the sun from heating up my attic space. Benefit there too.
Now at night I am dead in the water. Cannot store any substantial amount. I rely 100% on the grid from 6 pm until 9 am.
In that case, a transition to shivering/sweating in the dark is a pretty likely scenario, IMO.
On the brighter side, our electric bills may shrink if the utilities don't raise their price because of the scarcity.
Unless I missed something, solar power is DC. If somebody knows how they convert that to AC I would love to know that and what the current handling capabilities are. It just doesn’t add up to me.
A company I used to work for had a solar manufacturer as one of their biggest customers.
That the manufacturing plant was not solar operated told me all I needed to know about the scam.
Grid tie inverters do that conversion to tie the DC panels to the AC grid.
Since they are lunar panels does that mean they are charged by black light?
Not a hit at all. We need global warming to help prevent the next glacial. So keep absorbing that sunlight ! Nuke plants also cause global warming due to water vapor creation. Keep up the good work !
Rule of thumb: Solar averages 10 watts per square meter.
That’s not much.
I like solar a lot. Just spent a week off grid using it. Run my office on it in summer. Rent utility panels for home use. I think everyone should (by choice) supplement with solar, for grid independence/backup.
I also have FF electricity, have no qualms about using it, and think compulsory use is stupid.
Biggest under discussed issue is backup capacity: you run down your batteries, you’re done - and recharging requires capacity double base demand. Preparing for prolonged backup has high hard cost vs diminishing odds of need - and that need is real when it happens.
Beware progressives forcing renewables on us, then blaming us when the full cost is found.
Solar panels have a half life of 10 to 20 years.
That means, at best, in 20 years you will have half the output.
Maybe if theyre on a flat roof, but with my very tall sloping roof I just use a garden hose with a power wash wand to make a high enough water arc to rinse the dust off the embedded solar panels two or three times per year outside of the rainy season, with both feet on the ground.
Same experience here in Sacramento. Counting the federal & state tax credits, were breaking even on our 2011 solar system installation after 8 years, with mid-summer electric bills dropping from $300 to about $50 per month. With typical summer peak temps in the high 90s, panels keep adequate efficiency to make it practical and were selling a lot of power back.
Thank you friend, I know a lot about inverters but current is my main concern, they don’t have it.
I do some real estate investing and have bought and sold several houses over the years. I wont touch a house with solar. If you go to sell the house, you need to put the solar system in good, working order. Furthermore, these systems are bought on long- term purchase plans. When you go to buy the house, you are obligated to purchase the solar system with the house in most cases whether you want it or not. When you go to sell, the buyer has to agree to purchase the solar system. When you go to close, theres a section about installed solar systems and who is obligated to pay for it.
“Unless I missed something, solar power is DC. If somebody knows how they convert that to AC I would love to know that and what the current handling capabilities are. It just doesnt add up to me.”
One uses the DC current from the panel array to run an oscillator circuit, of which it oscillates at 60 Hertz. These inverters then phase the oscillator output so as to lead the current while locked to the phase of the ac line feeding from the grid. Efficiencies run between 90 and 98% depending on design. In the daytime I deliver current into the grid, at night I do as everyone else, drain the grid.
Peace of mind?
Buy a generator.
Mine’s in the barn and backfeeds the house thru the welder socket.
Yes; I DO make sure to disconnect from the grid before connecting it all up. A plug was a LOT less costly than a change over switch. And with 50 amp breakers on that welder curcuit; I can run EVERYTHING in the house except the electric dryer, stove or oven. (If I need those; I make sure enough other things are disconnected.)
“The actual return in the market, as well as capitalized return on investment, maybe 50% of costs.”
It assumes also that a stable economy continues to exist to measure such a return of investment. In a shtf scenario, a relatively good functioning solar system becomes as valuable as food and gold since there would be no mass power systems available in such situations. If one is looking for returns of investment in a stable economy yes your statement is true. But don’t underestimate intrinsic value as a backup system when nothing else would be available.
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