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Iran says downed US drone recovered in its territorial waters
AFP via Yahoo ^ | June 20th, 2019 | Sebastian SMITH with Marc JOURDIER in Tehran

Posted on 06/20/2019 5:43:00 PM PDT by Mariner

Washington (AFP) - Iran said Thursday it had recovered parts of a US spy drone in its territorial waters, after downing the aircraft in a missile strike slammed by President Donald Trump as a "big mistake."

Under pressure to respond to the high-stakes incident in the strategic Strait of Hormuz, where a series of tanker attacks have sent tensions soaring with Iran, Trump initially struck a combative tone.

"Iran made a very big mistake!" he tweeted in response to news Iran had shot down the Global Hawk surveillance aircraft -- which the Pentagon says was above international waters at the time.

"This country will not stand for it, that I can tell you," he said later at the White House.

But as the overnight incident whipped up fears of open conflict between the United States and its declared foe Iran -- sending crude oil prices up more than six percent -- Trump moved swiftly to dial back tensions.

"I find it hard to believe it was intentional, if you want to know the truth," Trump said. "I think that it could have been somebody who was loose and stupid that did it."

The president's mixed message left the world unsure what Washington's next move would be.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drone; iran; trump
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To: dragnet2

Maybe some sections have airtight bulkheads.


41 posted on 06/20/2019 7:11:23 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: dragnet2

Aircraft parts are made from many different types of materials, some of which no doubt will float. No?
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Yes, seat cushions torn loose from the aircraft will float for a period of time. Oh, wait, there are no seats on this unmanned aircraft.


42 posted on 06/20/2019 7:14:02 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: HighSierra5

Maybe. Btw, I don’t think Iran as released images or even stated what was allegedly found.


43 posted on 06/20/2019 7:15:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: House Atreides

You win...Everything went straight to the bottom and including the guidance systems, extensive wiring/electronics, landing gear, tires, video cameras et al.


44 posted on 06/20/2019 7:19:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: All

The Irainians have already been caught publishing misleading photos of this incident. Why should we believe anything they say now. Debris could be from anything.


45 posted on 06/20/2019 7:23:14 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: Mariner

Iranian Mine & Missile Warfare Explained By Former Navy SEAL

(Me, in a ten minute segment on Infowars today.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoQcGELgUE


46 posted on 06/20/2019 7:28:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mariner

Verify the Chinese didn’t hack the GPS navigation and reporting.


47 posted on 06/20/2019 7:31:32 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: McGruff

The Irainians have already been caught publishing misleading photos of this incident. Why should we believe anything they say now. Debris could be from anything.
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Hopefully, American recovery efforts are already on-site. Since the explosive destruction occurred at 30,000 feet or more, the debris likely will have fallen over a scattered large area.


48 posted on 06/20/2019 7:31:33 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: Mariner

With the recent attacks on 6 tankers, I cannot believe that there would not be satellites over the Strait of Hormuz That would not have imagery of the drone being shot down. I so, they would show coast lines, etc.

There should be very simple and obvious proof.


49 posted on 06/20/2019 7:32:18 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Mariner
Since the person operating the drone could have been in either Diego Garcia or just north of Las Vegas, IMHO, the drone should be considered to have been in British air space or American air space...
(Is a /s even necesary?)
50 posted on 06/20/2019 8:06:54 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: Mariner

If limpet mine video or whatever evidence comes to me via the US intel community, then to me it’s NOTHING.

I don’t care if it’s ultra hi-rez slo-mo, certified, and the agents show Iranian ID on film, to me it’s MADE UP.

You abuse your power to try to reverse an election, then to me your organization for all practical purposes does NOT exist, you have NO sources.

Might as well dissolve the CIA, etc.

Too bad, cuz right now we really need reliable info.

I don’t see how they can make themselves useful, going forward.


51 posted on 06/20/2019 8:53:07 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Robert357

“There should be very simple and obvious proof.”


Yup. And radar and/or FLIR data showing the point of origin of the boats which attacked the tankers in the prior attacks.

A question I’ve not seen posed by anyone else here: Who sends a surface watercraft to the scene of a crime in BROAD DAYLIGHT to recover a mine which was probably untraceable? “Oh, but we took our flag off of our boat to hide our identity.” “The Iranians are coming! The Iranians are coming!” /s Jeese Louise. We’ve had satellites spied on the region ever since Trump exposed that there was some undefined threat. You & I know damned well that they had eyes-on.


52 posted on 06/20/2019 9:14:40 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for posting that. : )


53 posted on 06/20/2019 9:15:43 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: gaijin

Wow. And I thought I was all alone here in my views on this.

Seriously. I thought I was gonna get banned again for my posts the other day.

Spot-on.


54 posted on 06/20/2019 9:29:08 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Mariner

The problem for the Iranians is the drone operators have exact GPS readings of its location. The problem with the Iranians, even with GPS, they couldn’t find their own asses.


55 posted on 06/21/2019 1:48:05 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: gaijin

Good post. Reading about cia in the 1960s, wondering how the People could ever control international spy-intelligence agencies ever, if run in secret and filled with fallible human beings.


56 posted on 06/21/2019 1:52:40 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: jonrick46

No one believes Iran, except maybe Merkel in Germany.


57 posted on 06/21/2019 1:52:55 AM PDT by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Mariner

armageddon initiated, all control to the military and shadow gangstamint, aliens , russians..uh..uh..

wouldn’t surprise me, we have not been in control of this for a while..maybe it is time to initiate plan kill all because whoever wins rules...russia, china, know the game and we approach the apex of action..


58 posted on 06/21/2019 3:26:15 AM PDT by aces (and)
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To: Mariner

Kind of jumped a few sharks with that one...Trump is in control and will not be pushed by anyone - he had many telling him he had to retaliate right now and he let folks know it would be that easy and quick before he opted to “soften” to allow things to unravel.


59 posted on 06/21/2019 4:22:47 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: dragnet2; Berlin_Freeper
Speaking of Berlin....

EU Chairs Meeting Including China, Russia, Iran to Save Iran Nuclear Deal

60 posted on 06/21/2019 4:26:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds,)
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