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Where does your plastic go? Global investigation reveals America's dirty secret
The Guardian ^ | Mon 17 Jun 2019 01.00 EDT

Posted on 06/17/2019 9:51:18 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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1 posted on 06/17/2019 9:51:18 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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It doesn’t matter.


2 posted on 06/17/2019 9:52:26 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: Hojczyk

Just America. The other 198(?) countries are all okeedokee.


3 posted on 06/17/2019 9:54:29 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Yup. Only a little over 11 years and we’re outta here anyway.


4 posted on 06/17/2019 9:56:51 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Hojczyk

The article is really good if you can get by the title...its the rich countries sending there plastic to poor countries so they can say we recycle

Got to love the greens ...send our plastic to Asia...

Should be burned or shredded and put in landfills...

It is now in the Ocean because we shipped it there..


5 posted on 06/17/2019 9:57:44 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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For several decades, Germans have been shipping their plastic to ‘dealers’ which sell (pay) someone else to move it elsewhere. Very little of it get recycled within Germany. I suspect most of the top ten tier countries do the same.


6 posted on 06/17/2019 9:58:29 AM PDT by pepsionice
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“The planet … is a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, ‘Why are we here?’”

“Plastic, A-Holes!”

-George Carlin


7 posted on 06/17/2019 9:58:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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it magically just disappears- just like the left’s trillions of dollars for ‘free everything’ is going to just magically appear out of nowhere


8 posted on 06/17/2019 10:01:52 AM PDT by Bob434
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It’s the America-hating Guardian, so they won’t mention China at all.


9 posted on 06/17/2019 10:04:03 AM PDT by simpson96
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Was it better with paper bags and glass bottles?

I remember paper drives when I was a child, and collecting bottles on the side of the road for the deposit.

When I got my first job as a bag boy at Publics, they were pushing plastic bags as a way to save the world by saving trees.

A future issue will be mercury in our drinking water from the energy saving bulbs that burn out then deposit to our land fields.


10 posted on 06/17/2019 10:05:00 AM PDT by DEPcom
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“The article is really good if you can get by the title...its the rich countries sending there plastic to poor countries so they can say we recycle

Got to love the greens ...send our plastic to Asia...

Should be burned or shredded and put in landfills...

It is now in the Ocean because we shipped it there..”

Any number of thermal depolymerization companies can turn (at a reasonable rate of return) feed stocks, tires, cellulose, offal, and especially plastics, into petroleum fuel (Farm diesel mostly). The byproducts are water and dry minerals. There is smoke and measures are in place to minimize outflow from there. BP is mobbed up with a company that does this, and Changing World Technologies was early on able to provide the service.

Better to get more use out of a product than shove it into yet another, never to be sufficiently cursed, government program.

Cheers, .02, YMMV

KYPD


11 posted on 06/17/2019 10:08:07 AM PDT by petro45acp (The mueller stink bomb, an intended distraction from the probe into zippy's deepstate meddling.)
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I recycle with a smug look on my face, so I don’t have to worry about it. Everything’s just fine.


12 posted on 06/17/2019 10:09:41 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Wong said he might spend $150 to buy a ton of plastic scrap from a US recycler. Once it is shipped abroad, sold to a processor, turned into pellets and then again shipped to a manufacturer, the seller might ask as much as $800 per ton. Yet the cost of similar virgin plastic, which is often higher quality, is just $900 to $1,000 a ton.

So in short it does not happen because the economics don't support it. Well, DUH!


13 posted on 06/17/2019 10:11:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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93% of oceanic plastic comes from just 10 rivers. One is the Nile. One is the Niger. The other 8 are in Asia.

The entire continents of Europe, North America, South America and Australia are responsible for 7% of oceanic plastic. Combined.

Yet the Manchester Guardian wants to call their article the United States of plastic??? LOL!


14 posted on 06/17/2019 10:13:57 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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When Pennsylvania mandated recycling of old electronics lots of people jumped to get into the business.

Within two years there was virtually no place left to take your old televisions and computers, because they quickly found that the promised profits from recycling materials was not there.

So you can’t put your TV out for the trash and you can’t find a place to recycle it. The predictable result being that people chuck them into rivers and leave them on the porches of vacant homes. Liberalism generating the exact opposite of its stated intent.

Like any other state law here I am sure it was passed with the promise of kickbacks that never materialized.


15 posted on 06/17/2019 10:15:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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93% of oceanic plastic comes from just 10 rivers. One is the Nile. One is the Niger. The other 8 are in Asia. The entire continents of Europe, North America, South America and Australia are responsible for 7% of oceanic plastic. Combined. Yet the Manchester Guardian wants to call their article the United States of plastic??? LOL!

Facts only matter when you have an educated electorate. Public schools indoctrinate leftist ideology so many kids believe this nonsense.

16 posted on 06/17/2019 10:15:50 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Public schools don’t teach that 7% is not “most”.


17 posted on 06/17/2019 10:17:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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The Gaurdian -read no further.


18 posted on 06/17/2019 10:27:54 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: rktman

Good point. Great point. I always forget!


19 posted on 06/17/2019 10:31:41 AM PDT by Karoo
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Set your calendar to give you a 30 minute heads up. :-) Yup. Duhmerica is duh onliest country that causes po-lution. Hey guardian. ESAD! Print media. Pfffttttt! That’s so last century.


20 posted on 06/17/2019 10:36:05 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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