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U.S. Justice Department prepares Google antitrust probe: sources
Yahoo/Reuters ^ | May 31, 2019 | Diane Bartz

Posted on 06/01/2019 6:54:12 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: Shadow44
Let me guess, you were also mad when McConnell got all those judges confirmed by scrapping the Senate rules.
Actually the senate rules were scrapped by Harry Reid. McConnell reinstated the rules scrapped by the Democrats.

How long have you been working for GOOGLE?

21 posted on 06/01/2019 8:41:48 AM PDT by lewislynn
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To: lewislynn

So that’s how Kavanaugh got confirmed by a simple majority then?


22 posted on 06/01/2019 8:44:26 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: lewislynn

McConnell also ditched it for District judges months ago too, by the way. The sake with blue slips. I’m sure everyone was outraged over this.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/03/709489797/senate-rewrites-rules-to-speed-confirmations-for-some-trump-nominees


23 posted on 06/01/2019 8:47:22 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: morphing libertarian
What do you propose when the largest companies in a field conspire to control elections

That's called a crime. There are legitimate laws to deal with force and fraud. I'm not willing to sanction Leviathan to bust up FR and Fox and Google because people are scared of some servers and wire that are used VOLUNTARILY.

24 posted on 06/01/2019 8:52:56 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

Then let’s put some people in jail. They had another meeting in April or May to solidify their election goals.


25 posted on 06/01/2019 8:56:47 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Zathras

they may tell that to the employees but the top people are determined to have political power other than by making campaign contributions.


26 posted on 06/01/2019 8:57:56 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: rollo tomasi; SWAMP-C1PHER; Shadow44
Please re-read my post. I didn't say anti-trust law is unconstitutional (though if you want to get originaliist, if the Founders had a problem with large powerful firms they'd have broken up the US operations of The East India Trade Co...which they didn't...). I said the bastardization of the Commerce Clause is the basis of trust busting and I'm not willing to support the same philosophical basis send to regulate away the 2nd Am ndment etc.

As for States setting their own laws, well, yea...9th and 10th. As such, if you don't like Google, then contact your State reps.

Scalia said it in an oral argument when a lawyer was lamenting how HARD it was to get something done...Scalia effectively said "government is supposed to be inefficient. It is supposed to be hard to make big changes." He's right, and in line with Jefferson/The Declaration's warning about moving fast and hard on light and transient causes.

Many a despot seeks to enslave the nation via scare-mongering, shortcuts and expediency. Indeed, even ex-Sen Franken wanted to bust up/regulate these internet firms. Some people may side with Senator Groper...I'll stick with Jefferson and Scalia and find legitimate ways to battle these horrible firms...became the Invisible Hand dealt firmly with Kodak and other large firms.

27 posted on 06/01/2019 9:17:16 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: traderrob6

“Appears that Barr has more than 1 entrée on his plate.”

It’s a Vegas buffet.


28 posted on 06/01/2019 9:29:34 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only a Replacement Wall? Ann Coulter is deeply saddened)
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To: traderrob6

“Appears that Barr has more than 1 entrée on his plate.”

It’s a Vegas buffet.


29 posted on 06/01/2019 9:29:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only a Replacement Wall? Ann Coulter is deeply saddened)
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To: DoodleBob

If Congress has the power to regulate commerce, then tell us why the Sherman Act bastardized the Commerece Clause?

Government allowing monopolies and a tight oligopoly to run wild is inefficient and hazardous to the free market.

Careful when mentioning Scalia concerning the Commerce Clause, that was the area where his “looseness” of Constitutional dictates resided. His work in the private sector during the late 1960’s stuck with him a little.

Tariff Act of 1789 opened up competition with the *London* based East India Company. Plenty of smaller privately US owned trading companies operated and competed against that foreign giant.


30 posted on 06/01/2019 11:22:12 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi; Shadow44
If Congress has the power to regulate commerce, then tell us why the Sherman Act bastardized the Commerece Clause?

Great question. Let's ask Madison about the intent of the CC. We have his answer per Federalist #42:

The defect of power in the existing Confederacy to regulate the commerce between its several members, is in the number of those which have been clearly pointed out by experience. To the proofs and remarks which former papers have brought into view on this subject, it may be added that without this supplemental provision, the great and essential power of regulating foreign commerce would have been incomplete and ineffectual. A very material object of this power was the relief of the States which import and export through other States, from the improper contributions levied on them by the latter. Were these at liberty to regulate the trade between State and State, it must be foreseen that ways would be found out to load the articles of import and export, during the passage through their jurisdiction, with duties which would fall on the makers of the latter and the consumers of the former. We may be assured by past experience, that such a practice would be introduced by future contrivances; and both by that and a common knowledge of human affairs, that it would nourish unceasing animosities, and not improbably terminate in serious interruptions of the public tranquillity. To those who do not view the question through the medium of passion or of interest, the desire of the commercial States to collect, in any form, an indirect revenue from their uncommercial neighbors, must appear not less impolitic than it is unfair; since it would stimulate the injured party, by resentment as well as interest, to resort to less convenient channels for their foreign trade. But the mild voice of reason, pleading the cause of an enlarged and permanent interest, is but too often drowned, before public bodies as well as individuals, by the clamors of an impatient avidity for immediate and immoderate gain.

The necessity of a superintending authority over the reciprocal trade of confederated States, has been illustrated by other examples as well as our own. In Switzerland, where the Union is so very slight, each canton is obliged to allow to merchandises a passage through its jurisdiction into other cantons, without an augmentation of the tolls. In Germany it is a law of the empire, that the princes and states shall not lay tolls or customs on bridges, rivers, or passages, without the consent of the emperor and the diet; though it appears from a quotation in an antecedent paper, that the practice in this, as in many other instances in that confederacy, has not followed the law, and has produced there the mischiefs which have been foreseen here. Among the restraints imposed by the Union of the Netherlands on its members, one is, that they shall not establish imposts disadvantageous to their neighbors, without the general permission.

Thus, the linchpin of the Founders' intent behind the Commerce Clause is found in Madison's phrases of "relief of the States which import and export through other States," and "In Switzerland, where the Union is so very slight, each canton is obliged to allow to merchandises a passage through its jurisdiction into other cantons, without an augmentation of the tolls."

Madison et al weren't talking about anti-trust, breaking up monopolies or limiting tarrifs...this was about States obstructing commerce. That is a far cry from the statist frenzy being unleashed by normally free-market conservatives. Because...where does this end? How long before FR is broken up? Fox?

By the way, monopolies are not bad...some businesses given the huge costs are most efficiently run by one entity, such as electric power generation. We can quarrel over the "proper" regulation of monopoly power, but monopolies and oligopolies are not ipso factohazardous.

31 posted on 06/01/2019 1:13:10 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob
How long before FR is broken up? Fox? You don't get it. They're going to do this regardless. The Fake News meme was set up by the tech industry so Hillary could do so. They were going to pull Fox's broadcasting license and throw people like Hannity and Alex Jones in jail. Facebook and Google are already violating the law is and should be punished appropriately. Talking about the Commerce Clause it ridiculous at this point. You cannot reciprocate respect for the rights of those who do not respect yours. Google doesn't want you to have Free Speech, in fact I'm sure their executives would prefer if everyone here were all dead. The next time there's a Democratic administration I guarantee you Silicon Valley will start enforcing EU style hate speech laws as part of their "Terms of Service" and "Codes of Conduct". They already are doing so de facto.
32 posted on 06/01/2019 2:47:01 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

.....They were going to pull Fox’s broadcasting license and throw people like Hannity and Alex Jones in jail.


Would it alter your beliefs to be told that the FCC cannot regulate cable channels, as they do not use common airwaves?

.....Facebook and Google are already violating the law is and should be punished appropriately.

What law?


33 posted on 06/01/2019 3:03:03 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2

The Communications Deceny Act 0f 1996.


34 posted on 06/01/2019 3:31:43 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

I don’t see where that requires cable to have a license or to submit to the FCC in any way. Could you be more specific?


35 posted on 06/01/2019 3:35:13 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Shadow44

And if you mean facebook and google, how are they violating the Decency act?


36 posted on 06/01/2019 3:37:04 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2

The law gave ISPs and tech companies immunity from content because they are impartial safe harbors, they’re not “publishers” like Newspapers are. This is why they aren’t liable for what people write just like the phone company isn’t liable for what you say on the phone.

The problem is by now engaging in censorship, they are curating and acting like a publisher, which means they should now be held liable for content because they’re violating the provisions. They cannot have it both ways.


37 posted on 06/01/2019 3:42:03 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

Oh, I quite agree the censoring of speech is immoral. But only government censorship is illegal. If you don’t like what a commercial company is doing, either start your own or go elsewhere. Putting someone in jail for it is ... not gonna happen.


38 posted on 06/01/2019 3:46:20 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2
. But only government censorship is illegal. If you don’t like what a commercial company is doing, either start your own or go elsewhere. If Twitter is curating content as a publisher, then they're liable for the ISIS propaganda they allow on their platform. There's tons of examples like this. As for the "build your own platform" this has been tried by many people and has been shut down by banks. We even had people try to build their own payment processors and Mastercard and Visa shut them down. I guess we need to build our own banks too? Until the government doesn't allow that to happen, then what? What do you do when every major corporation is against you? And why are you defending them when they clearly are engaging in repression against you?
39 posted on 06/01/2019 4:16:39 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

I’m just telling you what the law is.
The law can even be changed, too.
But I am a capitalist and treasure
keeping government out of commerce
as much as possible.


40 posted on 06/01/2019 4:19:10 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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