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To: Lurkinanloomin

Obama was the worst president in recent history and he was eligible to be the US prez. His mom was a natural born citizen and that is all it took. Doesn’t matter where he was born. In the 2016 election we saw a greater challenge to the “natural born citizen” requirement. Cruz’s mom is American, dad was Cuban and he was born in Canada. He was fine. Jindal and Rubio were the question marks of the candidates; both born in US, both had foreign parents. Even John McCain by your standards should have been dq’ed. He was born in Panama. I think we have conflated the birthright issue with the natural born issue which creates the confusion. Remember it was Hillary who was the first birther. Her and many others, I believe, have this wrong.


10 posted on 05/12/2019 5:10:02 PM PDT by BigB60
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To: BigB60

“His mom was a natural born citizen and that is all it took. Doesn’t matter where he was born”

Bunk. He was a dual national by Jus Sanguinis and then was alienated when adopted by Soetoro.

My grandfather was a Vice Consul in Scotland when he sent my grandmother - a British national - to his home in the Midwest to have my mother. His main job was approving visas and he understood nationality in detail. He took no chances: Mom was born on US soil to a naturalized mother and native born American. No bridge paperwork needed.

Soetoro was in no way “natural born”. Dual nationals have a hell of a time getting Top Secret and especially higher clearances because their loyalty has to be established. If Barry Soetoro had applied to work at NRO or NSA or even a nice place like CIA he would have needed years to get his clearance. He made the intelligent decision of bypassing all that and simply outranking the people who would have sensibly denied him.

Soetoro was illegitimate as a President even assuming he was born in Honolulu. It should never happen again.


13 posted on 05/12/2019 5:45:21 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: BigB60

No fan of McCain by any means, but his parents resided in the Canal Zone, then U.S. territory, at the time of his birth. The actual birth took place in a Panamanian hospital just outside U.S. territory. This was probably out of medical necessity. But his case is far less egregious than those of Ted Cruz, born in Canada or George Romney, Mitt’s dad, born in Mexico.


19 posted on 05/12/2019 6:04:56 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: BigB60
Cruz’s mom is American, dad was Cuban and he was born in Canada. He was fine.

Hey noob! Ted Cruz was not "fine!" You weren't on this forum when we hashed it out ad infinitum. Read The US Constitution and the minutes of the First and Second Congress. You will see clearly the intent of the Founders.

24 posted on 05/12/2019 6:25:10 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: BigB60

I’m not sure that was his mom.


25 posted on 05/12/2019 6:27:01 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: BigB60

Wasn’t McCain born on a US military base? That absolutely did make him a US citizen.


28 posted on 05/12/2019 7:02:57 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: BigB60; Lurkinanloomin
Oh look.

Another wholesale rejecter of the Constitution.
They are simple to spot.

They lack both the intellect and the integrity to discuss the Constitution within the framework that the writers used. Few of them have ever read the minutes of the Constitutional Convention, and many lack the basic vocabulary to even discuss it.

Ask them to much as say the phrase “divided loyalty” and all they can choke out is “birther.”

32 posted on 05/12/2019 7:28:57 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: BigB60

His mother being a natural born citizen is not the requirement.
He has to be one.
He is not.
His foreign father made him a British subject and Kenyan national at birth and he even admitted it.


36 posted on 05/12/2019 7:41:17 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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