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All Bernie’s Socialists: The candidate’s advisers want America to be more like Venezuela.
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 8, 2019

Posted on 04/09/2019 3:25:54 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Socialism is cool again, and Bernie Sanders wants to reassure voters that there’s nothing to worry about. “I think what we have to do, and I will be doing it, is to do a better job maybe in explaining what we mean by socialism—democratic socialism,” Mr. Sanders said last month. He has also said that conservatives portray his brand of socialism “as authoritarianism and communism and Venezuela, and that’s nonsense.”

We’ve been reading the work of Bernie’s senior political advisers, and their words deserve more attention. Take speechwriter David Sirota, who joined the Sanders campaign in March, though he had been attacking the Vermont Senator’s Democratic opponents on Twitter for months.

Mr. Sirota wrote an op-ed for Salon in 2013 titled “Hugo Chávez’s Economic Miracle.” Mr. Sirota conceded, Chávez “was no saint” and “amassed a troubling record when it came to protecting human rights and basic democratic freedoms.” Those pesky disclaimers aside, Mr. Sirota suggested that there’s plenty to learn from Chávez.

“For example, the United States has adamantly rejected the concept of nationalization and instead pursued a bailout/subsidy strategy when it comes to rapacious banks and oil companies—and those firms have often gone on to wreak economic havoc. Are there any lessons to be learned from Venezuela’s decision to avoid that subsidization route and instead pursue full-on nationalization?” Mr. Sirota wrote. “And in a United States that has become more unequal than many Latin American nations, are there any constructive lessons to be learned from Chávez’s grand experiment with more aggressive redistribution?”

He wrote this in 2013, nearly 15 years after Chávez took power. Mr. Sirota has also opposed nearly all U.S. military actions abroad, and he blames the U.S. for inciting terrorism.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; sanders; socialism

1 posted on 04/09/2019 3:25:54 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

He wrote this fifteen years ago? Surely
the Venezuelan straits have changed in that time.
And not for the better. And surely the WSJ can
find something a little more recent. I would not
want to accuse them of fake news... maybe past
its ‘sell by’ date.


2 posted on 04/09/2019 3:31:04 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: reaganaut1

My small experience with politics was a eye opener. There is a segment of the voting public who will believe any seemingly well meaning person regardless of what the facts show them. They want to believe in goodness regardless of what is logical. They tend to do whatever the earnest politician says regardless of consequences. I don’t know what they think, when what you say will happen if they listen to the earnest politician happens, as you seldom get the same group in a before/after scenario. But my guess is most lack the ability to learn from their experiences. Otherwise, there would be very few Democrats over the age of, say, thirty.


3 posted on 04/09/2019 3:34:58 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
...Otherwise, there would be very few Democrats over the age of, say, thirty.

The very first paycheck stub showing tax deductions should ring a fire alarm in ones head... worked for me back in 1965.

4 posted on 04/09/2019 3:39:39 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Gen.Blather

There are people who predominately think, and others who predominately feel. Those whose actions are decided based on feelings cannot be reasoned with, as they actively reject logic and reason. And they don’t care that leftist politicians repeatedly lie to and manipulate them, because everything is about the feels.

I daydream about everyone having to pass some kind of competency test before being allowed to vote...


5 posted on 04/09/2019 3:45:46 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: reaganaut1

But these guys know how to do it correctly. Everybody else made mistakes......


6 posted on 04/09/2019 3:46:51 AM PDT by JParris
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To: exDemMom

Those whose actions are decided based on feelings cannot be reasoned with, as they actively reject logic and reason.


You can’t reason someone out of something
they weren’t reasoned into. And this applies
to people of a religious persuasion, too.


7 posted on 04/09/2019 3:49:33 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: reaganaut1
Hugo Chávez’s Economic Miracle

The "economic miracle" was oil at $100 per barrel. The only contribution Chavez made was not completely gutting the Venezuelan oil industry during his time in power, that had to wait for his successor.

8 posted on 04/09/2019 5:18:27 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: reaganaut1
"are there any constructive lessons to be learned from Chávez’s grand experiment with more aggressive redistribution?”

Yes. Don't go down that road. Don't even start.

9 posted on 04/09/2019 5:50:17 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: reaganaut1
Keep electing Democrats and RINOs, and America will BE Venezuela!

Note tagline.

10 posted on 04/09/2019 5:55:24 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Trump Revolution is the Resistance to the Decadence of Western Civilization.)
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To: reaganaut1

And those who HATE America—ALL Democrats and RINOs—will rejoice!


11 posted on 04/09/2019 5:56:11 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Trump Revolution is the Resistance to the Decadence of Western Civilization.)
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To: sparklite2

Like any other entity with fabulous wealth, once Venezuela’s oil industry’s assets were seized for redistribution it took time to become hollowed out.

The same will apply here. My fear is that this country is so freakin’ fabulously wealthy that the time frame for hollowing out may run decades. Well beyond the end of my lifetime.

This will create the illusion to Millenial skulls o’ mush that socialism is actually working.


12 posted on 04/09/2019 6:18:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

While what you post is probably true, there is not homogeneity among the states.

California is in bad trouble. Illinois is technically bankrupt and does not pay it’s bills. New York is showing financial distress. The state tax bite is no longer deductible and that is going to exacerbate the problems.


13 posted on 04/09/2019 6:26:28 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: bert
California is in bad trouble. Illinois is technically bankrupt and does not pay it’s bills. New York is showing financial distress.

FReepers need to learn the enduring lesson of 2008.

If you go to the United States Congress with a sufficiently butt-puckering Chicken Little story of impending doom, you WILL get a bailout. No matter how many people oppose it.

Learn it.
Live it.
Loathe it.


14 posted on 04/09/2019 6:44:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: reaganaut1

Just the other day, Bernie floored me when he stated that a welfare state was incompatible with an open border. To a RAT that must be heresy!


15 posted on 04/09/2019 9:01:42 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
Just the other day, Bernie floored me when he stated that a welfare state was incompatible with an open border. To a RAT that must be heresy!

He's just behind the times. Bernie doesn't realize that today's radicals don't want class warfare, they want a race war.

Labor unions and other key Democrat constituents used to solidly oppose illegal immigration and mass immigration of any kind because it undercut the cost of labor, and because many of the labor union voters were culturally conservative. Since that time, the Democrats have lost any and all interest in representing the interests of working and middle class Americans (at least the white ones) and have made open borders a cornerstone of their agenda.

Saying that we can't have open borders and a welfare state has now become as toxic to Democrats as saying "All lives matter." Evidently Bernie never got the memo.

16 posted on 04/09/2019 9:22:21 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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