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To: Redmen4ever; Impy; BillyBoy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican

I’m familiar with USVI politics.

That election you referenced was the 2014 election. The Democrat beat the incumbent Governor, Ken Mapp, of the Independent Citizens Movement party in November 2018. The Republican Party doesn’t really exist in the USVI anymore. Its standard-bearer was Gov. Melvin Evans back in the 1970s, and he managed to parlay it into winning a single term in Congress (Delegate) in 1978 (the first Black Republican to win a House seat since Oscar DePriest won his last term in 1932 from Chicago), but he promptly lost in the Reagan landslide of 1980.

The ICM Party is the alternative to the USVI Democrats, the catch-all for closeted USVI Republicans, but it is really little more than a protest party, winning an occasional race for Governor only to be dumped at the next election. Other than for Mel Evans, an ICM member won in 1994 (and he promptly caucused with the minority Democrats) and was promptly defeated in 1996 by a regular Democrat.

The last open Republican to run for U.S. Delegate was in 2014, and he got 8% of the vote. The last open Republican to run for Governor (excluding Kenneth Mapp, as he last ran as a Republican in 1996) was in 2002, and they got all of 7%.

As I said, to attach such a political locale to Florida would’ve potentially provided Dems with enough votes in a close election for them to win: To wit, Rick Scott beat Ben Nelson by 10,000 votes. The USVI would more than likely have provided 20,000+ votes to Nelson, and reelected him.


72 posted on 03/26/2019 3:05:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Redmen4ever; BillyBoy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; randita; ...

Yeah DJ is right. Puerto Rico is one thing, millions of people there, and while I’m skeptical at the moment (Dems pushing for it make clear they are confident of winning there if it was a state.) there is the possibly of competitive elections, that’s a discussion.

But tiny heavily RAT USVI? That’s a hard no. Attaching it to FLORIDA, which we’ve been winning by a hair? That’s BONKERS. Would you attach a tumor to the lungs of one of your loved ones?

Putting DC in Maryland would kill any small chance MD GOP would win anything, Governor Hogan’s relative landslide may have well been a loss. Hard pass. Is that “fair” to DC voters? No, it’s not. I’m surprised the rats haven’t been able to make more hay out of that issue of “disenfranchised Black voters”. But I don’t care, you don’t hand your enemy more ammunition. DC peeps are SOL, they shouldn’t have electoral votes as far as I’m concerned. Do you think if DC was nothing but working class Whites that the democrats would ever allow it to either be a state or become part of Maryland? LOL.

The only solution for DC I could support is a new state from DC plus adjacent (rat) areas in MD and VA, which would make MD a swing state and return VA to the GOP. Obviously I don’t expect this to happen but this is the only way to let DCers vote for Congress without screwing ourselves.

There have been proposals for an amendment to give DC one seat in the House but no Senate. I could live with that if it happened but still couldn’t support adding a permanent democrat seat.

Guam and NMI (and poor American Samoa, never given citizenship for some reason) might actually improve our chances if they were added to Hawaii.


74 posted on 03/26/2019 7:00:09 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

2018 run-off election for Gov. of U.S. Virgin Islands:

Independent (known to be a Republican) 45%, Democrat 55%

2,000 vote difference. Not 20,000.

Indeed, the total vote was barely over 20,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Virgin_Islands_gubernatorial_election

Overwhelmingly black. But not overwhelmingly Democrat.

Afro-Caribbeans don’t share the welfare/single-parent/gangster culture of African Americans. I could say the same thing about recent immigrants from Africa. It’s one thing for African American “scholars” to pooh-pooh Sowell’s differentiation among subgroups of blacks in the U.S. But, Sowell’s path-breaking has now been replicated by many and is now undeniable.

Democrat policies are designed, even intended to destroy the black family and the black neighborhood, in order to turn blacks into a permanent underclass. Those policies are slow genocide. Blacks outside the U.S., not caught in the welfare trap, range along the political spectrum. They’re not overwhelmingly Democrat.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/du-bois-review-social-science-research-on-race/article/test-of-the-afro-caribbean-model-minority-hypothesis/B88200ED3B3E06A8587F29E6F7A2F9BE

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X08001130

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/comparative-studies-in-society-and-history/article/explaining-afrocaribbean-social-mobility-in-the-united-states-beyond-the-sowell-thesis/16AF283FBE11FF7EFED6EE5EEDFDA116


75 posted on 03/26/2019 7:04:59 PM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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