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To: SeekAndFind

How Boeing and the FAA could think that a totally new fly by wire anti stall system should be controlled by non redundant sensors totally baffles me. That this system could not even be mentioned in the pilots’ flight manual when the 737 Max wa originally certified is absolutely incredible.

I’m sure that North American based airlines could operate the 737 Max safely, but there should be no excuses for the flawed design of the MCAS.


3 posted on 03/18/2019 1:21:21 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The MCAS system only uses one angle of attack sensor input, even though there are 2 on the plane.

The entire purpose was to avoid a new type-rating for the 737 Max. Boeing needed existing 737 pilots to be able to fly it far cheaper than if it was given a new type rating....which it deserves.

The larger engines sit higher and more forward than on standard 737s. This created some unique flight characteristics that are not shared with standard 737s.

MCAS was the shortcut.


5 posted on 03/18/2019 1:39:48 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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To: Paleo Conservative

While I can’t argue with what you posted, 200 hours experience with the lives of 200 people in his hands?

5 weeks?

Seriously?

All cultures are the same.


8 posted on 03/18/2019 1:47:52 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Agree.

Seems like this Angle of Attack sensor and respective stall avoidance system is at fault - erroneous data from a single sensor.

SMH.


9 posted on 03/18/2019 1:49:32 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Paleo Conservative

All the Captain has to do is hit the trim switch on the yoke and the autopilot disconnects returning full control to the pilot. This is a basic procedure known by any properly trained pilot. Manual trim is available, electric trim is available and dinner with a flight attendant is probably also available at the evening layover point.


36 posted on 03/18/2019 2:55:12 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The sensors are redundant, but non-voting. They only have 2, IIRC, whereas 3 are required for a single bad sensor to not be able to cause catastrophic failure.

However, I am also astounded that this system and the AFM were approved as is.


60 posted on 03/19/2019 7:43:15 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Even the ancient variants had comparators for the auto pilot systems. I agree a hard trim input system should be based on two AOA guages.


63 posted on 03/19/2019 8:50:15 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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