[NKP_Vet]

“Now there’s your Lost Cause Marxist speaking like a true left-winger.”

Lincoln was a big government socialist and that’s why he’s loved by democrats. The democrats of the middle 18th Century believed in States Rights and a limited government. Lincoln and his cohorts believed in massive Federal government with all power centralized in Washington DC.

Jefferson Davis was a conservative. Lincoln was a big government liberal.

[DiogenesLamp]

Jefferson Davis was a conservative. Lincoln was a big government liberal.

Big Government Liberals have been running Washington DC ever since. They are kept in power by the New York controlled propaganda system we know as "Mainstream Media" and they are kept in power because Washington DC spending and economic policy keeps the Wealthy people of New York in control of their wealth and power.

The evil Deep State cabal we are facing today, was put into power as a result of them electing their puppet dictator Lincoln.

We are literally facing the exact same enemy that the Southern states had to face back in 1861. New York and Washington DC basically run the United States of America.

[BroJoeK]

NKP_VET: "Lincoln was a big government socialist and that’s why he’s loved by democrats."

I can't speak for delusional Democrats, but as for "big government socialist", that's a total lie.

NKP_VET: "The democrats of the middle 18th Century believed in States Rights and a limited government.
Lincoln and his cohorts believed in massive Federal government with all power centralized in Washington DC."

Lies that Democrats told each other then, just as they lie to each other today -- lies are what Democrats do.

NKP_VET: "Jefferson Davis was a conservative.
Lincoln was a big government liberal."

Rubbish, when Democrats, including Jefferson Davis, were in power in the 1850s they acted just like Democrats today, including:

1. Nearly doubled Federal spending between 1852 and 1857 -- during peacetime.

2. Doubled the national debt between 1856 and 1860 -- during peacetime.

3. Spent 20% of 1852 Federal revenues on the Gadsden Purchase, negotiated by Secretary of War Jefferson Davis to provide a Southern route for the transcontinental railroad.
   Davis also owned shares in the Vicksburg-base railroad company which planned to build that Southern route.
   DC swamp, anyone?

4. Sent US Army troops -- commanded by future Confederate Gen. Albert Sydney Johnson -- to suppress the Mormon Rebellion in 1857 -- oh, yeh, those freedom-loving Democrats, they were all for self government and states rights, except when they weren't.

5. Sent Federal troops commanded by Col. RE Lee to protect the Texas border against "Indian savages" and "murderous banditti" -- a failure huge enough to be mentioned in Texas' "Reasons for Secession" document.

6. Supported the 1854 Ostend Manifesto for military conquest of Cuba, to increase US slave territories.

In 1860 Republicans responded in their party platform with, among others, this plank:

"6.That the people justly view with alarm the reckless extravagance which pervades every department of the Federal Government;
that a return to rigid economy and accountability is indispensable to arrest the systematic plunder of the public treasury by favored partisans;
while the recent startling developments of frauds and corruptions at the Federal metropolis, show that an entire change of administration is imperatively demanded."

So Democrats then were like Democrats today -- it's all a Big Lie.