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To: BroJoeK; OIFVeteran; FLT-bird; DiogenesLamp; central_va; DoodleDawg

“So your term “angry attack” can apply to Democrats who supported slavery, not to Founders who opposed it.”

The numbers suffice as rebuttal: 41 of 56.


279 posted on 03/18/2019 7:53:23 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
jeffersondem: "The numbers suffice as rebuttal: 41 of 56."

They don't, because they are limited & out of context.
For an accurate picture, we need the following:

  1. A listing of all 149 Founders who signed the four major Founding documents -- 1774 Continental Congress, 1776 Declaration, 1777 Articles of Confederation and 1787 Constitution.

  2. A listing of slaveholding Declaration signers.

  3. A listing of slaveholding Constitution signers.

The results show that:

  1. 1776 Declaration of Independence:
    92% of Southern delegates owned slaves.
    50% of Northern delegates owned slaves.
    71% of overall delegates owned slaves in 1776.

  2. 1787 Constitution Convention:
    77% of Southern delegates owned slaves.
    17% of Northern delegates owned slaves.
    50% of overall delegates owned slaves in 1787.
Bottom line: in the years between 1776 and 1787 slave ownership fell 2/3 among Northern delegates and 16% among Southern delegates, about 30% overall.

So, you simply cannot dispute the fact that our Founders opposed slavery in theory in 1776 and by 1787 had begun putting their anti-slavery theory into practice, even in the South.

That is a far cry from Fire Eater attitudes in 1860.

282 posted on 03/18/2019 10:24:12 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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