jeffersondem:
"Brother Joes post #125 references a couple of important quotes by Lee on this very topic.
I recommend you read them." To be clear about this, on an abolitionist scale of 0 to 10, where, let's say Alexander Stephens' Cornerstone Speech is a zero and, oh, say, John Brown is a... 12, then Lincoln comes in at 7 or 8, RINO Senator Seward at 5, Lee and Founders like Jefferson at 3 and the entire Confederate hierarchy at one:
Abolitionist scale from 1 least to 10 most:
- Most of Confederate leadership and Democrats pushing the so-called Corwin Amendment.
- Jefferson Davis, but only at the very end, in 1865.
- RE Lee reflecting traditional Southern Founders' desires for gradual abolition.
- Noteworthy Confederate generals like Patrick Cleburne who early-on advocated enlisting slaves with the promise of freedom.
- RINO/DINOs like Seward and Douglas who went along with restrictions on slavery, but not if they upset Southern Democrats too much.
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- "Moderate" Republicans like Lincoln and Grant who wanted restrictions on slavery even if they upset Southern Democrats too much.
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- Noteworthy abolitionists like 1856 Republican Presidential candidate John C. Fremont.
- Black leaders like Frederick Douglas.
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- Violent revolutionaries like Nat Turner and John Brown.
That is an excellent scale. Wholeheartedly agree. It’s human nature to look at things as either right or wrong, black or white, but the real world is rarely like that.