Posted on 01/31/2019 8:20:27 PM PST by rintintin
The US Army has concluded that Iran was the only victor of the eight-year US campaign to remove Iraqi president Saddam Hussein and replace him with a democratic regime.
That’s one of the findings of a massive historical study released Jan. 17, the first major military review of the Iraq war’s lessons. Commissioned in 2013 by General Ray Odierno, then the Army’s top commander, it was conducted by half a dozen field grade officers at the US Army War College.
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And now he paints pictures of the guys disfigured in his foolish war. Bizarre and sad
Evicting Saddam from oil rich Kuwait was absolutely essential.
Around 2000, when Saddam began to block weapons inspectors and fire triple-A at our recon planes, there had to be a forceful response, but not necessarily an invasion.
Final point - Iraq is 60%-65% Shia Muslim. They were the largest and poorest ethnic group in Iraq, and they had very little political influence under Saddam, especially when it came to the subject of Iran.
Saddam took insane political risks and gambled away his control of Iraq by attacking his neighbors.
I don't think the result of that gamble should surprise anyone.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/
I liked when cnn was forced to admit that we found the yellow cake that plames husband said didn’t exist.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/
Yet they tried to shove another Bush down our throats.
If Bush or Clinton had been elected we would have been at war with Russia within a year. (No-Fly zone and Ukraine).
These people sure love war.
Iran is overextended.
Maybe, but the post-Saddam Iraq government is its closest ally. Right after Bush ousted Saddam, Iraqi exiles who’d been living as guests in Iran returned to Iraq and formed the new government. These were Shiites, and the new constitution they wrote praised Shiite law. All this happened under our sponsorship, when Bush was still president. Simultaneously, throngs of Shiite jihadis began roaming the country killing Christians. Ironically, Christians had been protected under Saddam, but it was open season on them when Bush ousted him
The groundwork for the Iranian ascendancy was laid by George H. W. Bush, SecState James Baker and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie in 1990.
When Sadaam Hussein informed Glaspie of his intent to annex Kuwait Glaspie told him the USA wasn’t concerned about Arab vs Arab conflicts.
So Sadaam took that as an indication the field was clear and he invaded Kuwait.
He found out that Glaspie was wrong when the USA responded in 1991 with the Persion Gulf War to remove Iraq from Kuwait.
In so doing Iraq’s military power was virtually destroyed.
Since then the mid-east has been a can of worms for 28 years now, sucking US treasure and killing and wounding thousands of US military men.
The Gulf War and subsequent war and conflict has destroyed what little stability did exist in the area prior to 1990, and as other posters here pointed out. leaving Iran as the supreme power in the area.
One of Ron Paul’s problems is his style of delivery. He comes across as a ranting old uncle. That may seem like a superficial way of seeing things, but in the real world image and optics count
True.
Still, Muqtada al-Sadr is an assault against the Leaders of Iran.
He was deemed a traitor by many here on the FR.
Some here did predict that it would end up a disaster. Anyone who ever read a history book could have figured it out.
In the 90s Cheney gave great reasons for why they didn’t invade Iraq after kicking Saddam out of Kuwait. He said it would turn Iraq into chaos and empower Iran. Don’t know why he and Bush forgot all that. Everything he warned about came true. You can find the old interview with Cheney on YouTube. He makes the same points that Trump makes when he calls the invasion a disastrous decision
All this shoulda woulda coulda nonsense is ridiculous. “If only we had...” What idiocy.
ANY interventionist course in the Middle East will end up in disaster. ANY course. EVERY foreign power that stuck it’s nose in there got it chopped off. The people there are just nuts. You interfere to your own peril.
I like it!
I was a 98C too Bro!
“We’re Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable, and Self-Reliant Iraq”
said the jug-eared scumbag obama in 2011
The US has forgotten how to win wars.
Ok, Intra-Muslim, then.
Most of our “wars” have been siding with one set if Jihadis over another.
We're 0-5 since WW2.
No. There was infighting between the State Department and military/White House for control of Iraq under G.W. Bush, with the State Department pushing the agenda of Clinton holdovers, a situation reflecting the G.H.W. Bush and Clinton factions of CIA supporting rival exile groups in Iraq during the 1990s.
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