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We need to rethink everything we know about global warming
Science Daily ^ | 1-22-19

Posted on 01/26/2019 6:15:17 PM PST by SJackson

We need to rethink everything we know about global warming

New calculations show scientists have grossly underestimated the effects of air pollution

Date: January 22, 2019 Source: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Summary: New research shows that the degree to which aerosols cool the earth has been grossly underestimated, necessitating a recalculation of climate change models to more accurately predict the pace of global warming.

For a while now, the scientific community has known that global warming is caused by humanmade emissions in the form of greenhouse gases and global cooling by air pollution in the form of aerosols.

However, new research published in Science by Hebrew University of Jerusalem Professor Daniel Rosenfeld shows that the degree to which aerosols cool the earth has been grossly underestimated, necessitating a recalculation of climate change models to more accurately predict the pace of global warming.

Aerosols are tiny particles that float in the air. They can form naturally (e.g., desert dust) or artificially (e.g., smoke from coal, car exhaust). Aerosols cool our environment by enhancing cloud cover that reflect the sunlight (heat) back to space.

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To: SJackson
However, new research published in Science by Hebrew University of Jerusalem Professor Daniel Rosenfeld shows that the degree to which aerosols cool the earth has been grossly underestimated...

A climate change denier! Off with his head!

21 posted on 01/26/2019 6:47:45 PM PST by TChad
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To: gundog

I’ll be even older than that. Even better timing.


22 posted on 01/26/2019 6:48:14 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just hava few days that don't suck.)
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To: SJackson

I guess the sun has nothing to do with climate and the temperature of the Earth. Solar minimum? Hello (knock, knock) hello - McFly, anybody home?

Also, develop widespread use of Thorium energy and not only will we have safe, abundant, cheap energy for centuries to come, but it will put to rest all the annoying nonsense from the Climate chage hoaxters for good.


23 posted on 01/26/2019 6:51:46 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: SJackson
Consensus, baby! Gotta find me some consensus!

Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate]

Dear Administrator Jackson:

I write in regard to the Proposed Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases Under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, Proposed Rule, 74 Fed. Reg. 18,886 (Apr. 24, 2009), the so-called "Endangerment Finding."

It has been often said that the "science is settled" on the issue of CO2 and climate. Let me put this claim to rest with a simple one-letter proof that it is false.

The letter is s, the one that changes model into models. If the science were settled, there would be precisely one model, and it would be in agreement with measurements.

Alternatively, one may ask which one of the twenty-some models settled the science so that all the rest could be discarded along with the research funds that have kept those models alive.

We can take this further. Not a single climate model predicted the current cooling phase. If the science were settled, the model (singular) would have predicted it.

(excerpted from Professor Hayden's letter to Lisa P. Jackson, Administrator Environmental Protection Agency. More at link.)


24 posted on 01/26/2019 6:56:44 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: central_va
Didn’t you read 1984? It’s called double speak.

This is "doublethink": the belief in two ideas that contradict each other. In this case, these scientists want us to believe that air pollution simultaneously causes global warming and global cooling. It shows how much Liberalism is schizophrenic.

25 posted on 01/26/2019 7:02:31 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: SJackson

This was the original argument by climatologists in the late 70s and early 80s.

Climate change will simply keep switching the claim until socialism reigns supreme.


26 posted on 01/26/2019 7:08:15 PM PST by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: SJackson

Man, it sure was icy hot today.


27 posted on 01/26/2019 7:18:28 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: SJackson
Aerosols are tiny particles that float in the air. They can form naturally (e.g., desert dust) or artificially (e.g., smoke from coal, car exhaust). Aerosols cool our environment by enhancing cloud cover that reflect the sunlight (heat) back to space.

I've been proposing this hypothesis for years.

If the atmosphere is warming that means it will hold more moisture.

More water in the atmosphere means an increase in cloud formation meaning more reflection of solar radiation back into space.

Man-made global warming could result in global cooling.

28 posted on 01/26/2019 7:19:51 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: marktwain
When your computer models fail, then add another variable you did not include before!

That would be a form of theory patching. That does not seem to be what they are describing. Rather this merely and adjustment to an existing parameter to make a model better agree with measurements. This is perfectly respectable science.

What is not respectable is making extravagant and unsupportable claims in pursuit of grant money or acclaim.

29 posted on 01/26/2019 7:28:08 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Schumer delenda est.)
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To: TheConservator

I refuse to take any of the climate prognosticators seriously. They’re all nuts. They can’t even decide if we’re undergoing global warming or global cooling. This week we’re facing near record cold temps.


30 posted on 01/26/2019 7:32:18 PM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: Deaf Smith
Somehow, valcanos were not mentioned.

I think you mean volcanos! But yeah, thousands of volcanos on Earth, many under the oceans. And many of them are actively venting heat along with those pesky aerosol particles, in far larger numbers than mankind creates. Volcanos have been very active lately, and that is not the fault of mankind. Sunspot activity (or lack of it) and movement of the magnetic core of Earth (poles will flip soon) have much to do with it. Even then, the world won't end in 12 years. When volcanos calm down and the ice age gets worse, they'll be screaming about global cooling.

31 posted on 01/26/2019 7:36:50 PM PST by roadcat
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To: FirstFlaBn

We need global warming.


32 posted on 01/26/2019 7:41:09 PM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
That would be a form of theory patching. That does not seem to be what they are describing. Rather this merely and adjustment to an existing parameter to make a model better agree with measurements. This is perfectly respectable science.

I suppose it would be respectable if the scientists admitted they could not predict what was going to happen.

But they do not do that. They continue to claim that they can predict the future with these models.

Then when the models fail, they "adjust" them.

That is not predictive science, because it cannot be falsified. It is simply playing with computer models.

Part of the problem, of course, is that to validate the models, you have to wait 20 or 50 years.

33 posted on 01/26/2019 7:43:41 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Wm F Buckley Republican

Global warming is a blessing not a curse.


34 posted on 01/26/2019 7:45:37 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: SJackson

Might want to check this out:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3156594/Is-mini-ICE-AGE-way-Scientists-warn-sun-sleep-2020-cause-temperatures-plummet.html

The Maunder Minimum may be coming back. That’s why the Left is pushing oppressive rules on “global warming” while there is still a shred of evidence that it’s happening, before the Sun dials down and we actually cool off.


35 posted on 01/26/2019 7:48:42 PM PST by vette6387 (Fire Mueller)
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To: SJackson

"9 years and 11 months left people!!!"

36 posted on 01/26/2019 7:51:42 PM PST by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-amputee)
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To: TigersEye

Interesting.

Ben Santer (Nazi climate scientist) presented to the EPA, data, which was misleading:

A graph showing a warming trend from the early eighties to the late nineties, was attributed to man made Co2.

The only problem (fraud) was: There was a huge volcanic eruption in 1982 caused global cooling. Then in 1998 there was the gigantic Super El Nino (caused global warming).

Both events were TOTALLY NATURAL.

But Santer, cleverly (fraud) overlaid Co2 levels on said graph and voila...MAN MADE global warming!

EPA bought it hook, line and sinker, ergo CO2 is now a “pollutant”.

So in climate “science”, and ONLY in climate science:

Correlation actually PROVES causation!


37 posted on 01/26/2019 7:52:34 PM PST by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: All

Everyone concerned with global warming should assemble at Lambeau Field, Green Bay WI on Wednesday to hear my lecture, “I’m not even here dudes, but YOU’RE freezing to death.”


38 posted on 01/26/2019 7:54:23 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Take the next train to Marxville)
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To: SJackson

Wake me when it’s over.

Science is settled, my ass.


39 posted on 01/26/2019 7:55:05 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: marktwain

If they admit that their models are just that, hypothesis that can not be verified for fifty years or so. The models probably accurately model the first order effects of CO2, which appear to be nugatory at the current levels, so they add positive feedback to amplify the effect. One mechanism for positive feedback is water vapor, which most models claim will increase in the atmosphere and lead to catastrophic consequences. They apparently underestimate the role of negative feedback, for instance from increased cloud cover.

And if an inadvertent effect of CO2 burning is aerosols that cool the earth, how hard would it be to deliberately geo-engineer aerosols that would allow us to set the world thermometer just about any level we wish?


40 posted on 01/26/2019 7:55:11 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Schumer delenda est.)
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