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To: FLT-bird; DiogenesLamp; DoodleDawg; x; rockrr; Bull Snipe; OIFVeteran; rustbucket
On the related question of what percent of Federal tariff revenues were "paid for" by "the South", we've seen numbers claimed starting at 75% and even going north of 85%.
This in the face of actual revenues collected in Southern ports around just 8% of the total.
So, how do we get from 8% actual revenues to 75%+ claimed as "paid for" by "the South"?

Well, some posters like DiogenesLamp tell us it's not about import tariffs, but rather the export earnings which "paid for" those imports.
These, if we jigger & massage the numbers enough, can be made to appear as if "75%+" of US exports were "Southern products" which thus somehow "paid for" 75%+ of Federal import tariffs.

Others, like FLT-bird, are more direct in saying 75%+ of US imports were Southern owned when landed in New York, thus Southerners paid the tariffs in New York and then shipped their imports South via rail or packet ships.
This, they say, was the great economic crime committed by, in DiogenesLamp's term, "Northeastern power brokers" against the hard-working innocent Southern planters.

Well...
We can clear up one point pretty easily: what percent of US imports ended up in the South -- was it 85%, 75%, 50% or 8%?
Answer: closer to the last:

Maybe 10% according to this contemporary witness.

But what these numbers don't show us is the value of Southern "imports" from the North, circa $200 million per year.
We can compare those in 1860 as follows:

  1. Southern cotton exports ~ $200 million
  2. All other US exports, including specie ~ $200 million
  3. Northern export to the South ~ $200 million
In other words, "the North" "exported" an equal value to the South as it did to the rest of the world combined.
And "the South" effectively spent all its foreign exchange earnings in the North.

Those are indeed significant numbers -- no, not 75% or 85%, but still important to the overall.

743 posted on 01/26/2019 5:27:17 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK

Your repetitive responding to respond in order to waste as much time as possible while failing to read and/or just claiming any source that is inconvenient for your arguments is automatically untrue, has likewise come to an end. Buh Bye.

11th attempt.


744 posted on 01/26/2019 7:49:57 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: BroJoeK
Can't you just picture bird-brain holding his ears and chanting "I can't HEAR you!"


745 posted on 01/26/2019 8:51:19 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: BroJoeK
And "the South" effectively spent all its foreign exchange earnings in the North.

For any northern goods whose prices had been raised because the tariff protected them from cheaper and in some cases probably better quality foreign goods, the South was effectively paying the tariff to the makers of those Northern goods.

746 posted on 01/26/2019 9:18:00 AM PST by rustbucket
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