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To: FLT-bird; robowombat

FLT-bird: ***”Notice that when the Southern states seceded, they left with only their own sovereign territory.
They made no claim to territories owned by the US.”***

I’d say that crosses the line from myth to outright lie.
Confederates claimed & sent forces into Union territories of New Mexico and Oklahoma, as well as Union Missouri, Kentucky and West Virginia.
Confederates also invaded Union Maryland, Pennsylvania, ohio, Indiana & Kansas and had guerrillas in California, Colorado & Vermont among others.

So all Lost Cause claims that Confederates “just wanted to be left aline” are pure nonsense.


460 posted on 01/16/2019 8:18:31 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK; All
You very well know there were strong secessionist elements in both Missouri and Kentucky. You perhaps have heard of John Hunt Morgan and Joe Shelby. NM and AZ territories were south of the Missouri Compromise Line and therefore in the Southern political zone. Maryland had a lot of pro secessionists in the eastern half including the city of Baltimore. The Lincoln regime declared martial law and ruled the state at gun point for the duration, arresting the entire legislature and the President of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad among several thousand others. Really are you that ignorant or just firing off self-righteous equine excrement to see if any sticks?
461 posted on 01/16/2019 8:32:11 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: BroJoeK

They made no claim to territories owned by the US.”***

I’d say that crosses the line from myth to outright lie.
Confederates claimed & sent forces into Union territories of New Mexico and Oklahoma, as well as Union Missouri, Kentucky and West Virginia.

Nope! THAT is a lie. What you claim ONLY happened AFTER Lincoln started a war. Once the war was on, the Southern states took every measure to defend themselves. When they left they made no claim to any territory outside their borders.


Confederates also invaded Union Maryland, Pennsylvania, ohio, Indiana & Kansas and had guerrillas in California, Colorado & Vermont among others.

Again AFTER Lincoln started the war.


So all Lost Cause claims that Confederates “just wanted to be left aline” are pure nonsense.

Nope! It is your dishonest anti historical claims that are pure nonsense.


474 posted on 01/16/2019 1:48:40 PM PST by FLT-bird
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