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To: BroJoeK
That's crap. No slavery, no war, probably. Slavery was the big issue yankees kept screaming about similar to beverage alcohol for the prohibitionists. A minority of yankees were true abolitionist nuts, such as Giddings, who really wanted a Haiti style slave uprising, most were people who liked to shoot of the mouths and feel very virtuous. Sanctimoniousness is one of the most common and least pleasant attribute of Americans and the English. The inner circle of the Republicans were former northern Whigs and some hard money Democrats. They wanted high tariffs, centralized banking, subsidization of railroad and canal promoters and the whole litany of J Q Adams and Clay's ‘American System’. In effect the promoters of of crony capitalism as they continue to be. Screaming about slavery was just a smokescreen to get the wave of men turning 21 to vote Republican. The National Republicans/Whigs were a permanent minority party because their obvious crony capitalism schemes were not attractive to the majority of voters. Slavery screaming was a strategic tactic to diminish Democrat votes and break the Democrat strength in the NORTH. Unfortunately the party of plunder miscalculated as to just how angry Southerners were in the wake of the John Brown affair and fearful that staying in the union meant being united with people who were going to try and murder as many Southerners as possible. This should be pretty obvious as to how angry and fearful the GOP propaganda and the abolitionist lunatics behavior would make people. How do white people today feel towards the progressive rats determination to ‘change the demographic’ or those idiots who chant ‘you will be replaced’ or ‘your grandchildren ( if any survive) will be brown’. Secession would appear to have been aperfectly rational alternative to the status quo in 1860. And in passing, I would today support California's desire to succeed. Life without that huge pool of illegals and communists would be better in every way and they could try and create their socialist/progressive paradise.
405 posted on 01/15/2019 8:14:17 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: robowombat; BroJoeK; Bull Snipe
Slavery was the big issue yankees kept screaming about similar to beverage alcohol for the prohibitionists. A minority of yankees were true abolitionist nuts, such as Giddings, who really wanted a Haiti style slave uprising, most were people who liked to shoot of the mouths and feel very virtuous. Sanctimoniousness is one of the most common and least pleasant attribute of Americans and the English. The inner circle of the Republicans were former northern Whigs and some hard money Democrats. They wanted high tariffs, centralized banking, subsidization of railroad and canal promoters and the whole litany of J Q Adams and Clay's ‘American System’. In effect the promoters of of crony capitalism as they continue to be. Screaming about slavery was just a smokescreen to get the wave of men turning 21 to vote Republican. The National Republicans/Whigs were a permanent minority party because their obvious crony capitalism schemes were not attractive to the majority of voters. Slavery screaming was a strategic tactic to diminish Democrat votes and break the Democrat strength in the NORTH. Unfortunately the party of plunder miscalculated as to just how angry Southerners were in the wake of the John Brown affair and fearful that staying in the union meant being united with people who were going to try and murder as many Southerners as possible. This should be pretty obvious as to how angry and fearful the GOP propaganda and the abolitionist lunatics behavior would make people. How do white people today feel towards the progressive rats determination to ‘change the demographic’ or those idiots who chant ‘you will be replaced’ or ‘your grandchildren ( if any survive) will be brown’. Secession would appear to have been aperfectly rational alternative to the status quo in 1860. And in passing, I would today support California's desire to succeed. Life without that huge pool of illegals and communists would be better in every way and they could try and create their socialist/progressive paradise.

This is almost a masterpiece. It exactly corresponds with what I have realized after three years of researching the social and financial dynamics involved prior to the civil war.

I have been telling BroJoeK, BullSnipe and others, that "crony capitalism" was the force behind the destruction of the civil war. I have been trying to point out that the same enemy the Confederates were facing in the 1860s, is the same enemy we too are facing today.

What they call the "Acela corridor" is the ruling class of our nation. They thrive on government spending, and they have the power to influence the government to enact policies that benefit them financially. They own the broadcast media system in this nation, they own banking and finance, and they own the levers of power that decide the fate of us all.

And they hate us in the manner that the Northern Puritans hated the evil Southerners back in the 1860s. We are the "Deplorables" in "flyover" country.

418 posted on 01/15/2019 9:13:34 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: robowombat; rockrr; x

Robowombat: ***”Sanctimoniousness is one of the most common and least pleasant attribute of Americans and the English.”***

Which raises the important question: what exact nationality is robowombat that you spew such bitter hatred for Americans?

By your tone I’d guess you’re a Soviet apparatchik or Democrat propagandist, same thing.
I frankly can’t think of another way to rationally explain your feelings against America.


469 posted on 01/16/2019 11:47:52 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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