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To: FLT-bird; DoodleDawg; rockrr; DiogenesLamp
FLT-bird: "Its complete nonsense to try to claim that the de facto leader of the party knew nothing about, was not consulted about, had no hand in something as important as a proposed constitutional amendment."

Sorry, but Corwin's amendment originated with Democrats like Senator Jefferson Davis, was pushed by Democrat President Buchanan, passed by Democrats over Republican objections and signed by President Buchanan.
Lincoln's role in it was minimal to non-existent.
So it was ratified by only four states -- two Northern and two Border.

By stark contrast the 13th Amendment was fully supported by Lincoln and quickly ratified by the required 3/4 of states.

FLT-bird: "The PC Revisionists, trying to maintain their little fantasy about “honest Abe” and the myth of the virtuous North are desperate to try to gloss over the fact that slavery was not threatened in the US and that Northerners were only too happy to enshrine explicit protections for slavery in the Constitution effectively forever, but the facts are plain to see."

Sorry, but the only "desperate" I see is from you Lost Causers, typical Democrats, so desperate to deny the truth you'll concoct any lies necessary to make it go away.

Mississippi Senator Jefferson Davis worked to reassure Southerners by protecting slavery, until his own state seceded.
Other Democrats took up the baton and brought enough Republicans, i.e., Corwin, to pass their amendment.
Again, Lincoln's role was little to non-existent.

250 posted on 01/13/2019 11:58:54 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK

Sorry, but Corwin’s amendment originated with Democrats like Senator Jefferson Davis, was pushed by Democrat President Buchanan, passed by Democrats over Republican objections and signed by President Buchanan.
Lincoln’s role in it was minimal to non-existent.
So it was ratified by only four states — two Northern and two Border.

Sorry but it was named after Thomas Corwin...a Republican. Lincoln fully knew about it and endorsed it. As he said many times, he was only to happy to protect slavery. His real interest was in high tariffs and massive corporate subsidies overwhelmingly going to Northern business interests.


Sorry, but the only “desperate” I see is from you Lost Causers, typical Democrats, so desperate to deny the truth you’ll concoct any lies necessary to make it go away.

Mississippi Senator Jefferson Davis worked to reassure Southerners by protecting slavery, until his own state seceded.
Other Democrats took up the baton and brought enough Republicans, i.e., Corwin, to pass their amendment.
Again, Lincoln’s role was little to non-existent.

Nah, the real desperation is among you PC Revisionists who have consistently sought to deny that Lincoln’s main concern was in reviving Henry Clay’s “American system” of high tariffs and corporate welfare and that he was only too happy to protect slavery.

Jefferson Davis was quite clear in saying multiple times that the Northerners’ real interests were totally in getting legislation passed that would line their pockets at the South’s expense AND that any concerns they expressed about slavery were a mere pretense to further the partisan sectional legislation that would benefit them.


252 posted on 01/13/2019 12:11:28 PM PST by FLT-bird
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