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FLT-bird: "As always the PC Revisionists have it exactly backwards"

Nonsense.

FLT-bird: "They seem to come at it from the belief that the state's powers flow from the federal and that barring an express grant of power by the federal government to the state governments then the states don't have it.
Wrong! "

More nonsense.
Our Founders considered "disunion" acceptable under two, but only two conditions:

From necessity, abuses, usurpations, injury or oppression as spelled out in their 1776 Declaration of Independence.
At pleasure with mutual consent as in adopting their new Constitution in 1788.

No Founders ever proposed or supported unilateral unapproved declaration of secession at pleasure, but that's what Confederates did in 1860.

FLT-bird: " Nowhere is the federal government given the power to prevent secession nor are any conditions put on when a state may exercise its right to secession."

Nor did Democrat President Buchanan take any steps to stop secession or prevent the Confederacy forming.
Even President Lincoln took no military action against Confederates until after they provoked, started, declared & began to wage war against the United States.

“At pleasure with mutual consent as in adopting their new Constitution in 1788.”

This is an interesting comment. It combines mutual consent and something called “at pleasure” which we are told is not the same as a necessity.

All of which brings to mind the previous unanswered question: How did one state force 12 other states (a tenet of Brother Joe’s mother church) to enshrine slavery into the United States Constitution against their will?

This question needs to be revisited now that it’s confirmed (post 1213) that the Constitution was adopted “at pleasure” which is said to be different than a necessity.

Your repetitive responding to respond in order to waste as much time as possible while failing to read and/or just claiming any source that is inconvenient for your arguments is automatically untrue, has likewise come to an end. Buh Bye.

57th attempt.

You are simply not going to steal hours of my day every day.