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To: BroJoeK; FLT-bird; DiogenesLamp; DoodleDawg

“Whatever interpretation we give to young Lincoln’s opinion expressed in 1847, that was at least subsumed, if not overridden, by the oath of office he took in 1861.”

“Whatever interpretation” he says, as if the meaning of Lincoln’s declaration is unknown - and unknowable.

Brings to mind the comment of Samuel Adams: “How strangely will the tools of a tyrant pervert the plain meaning of words.”

We’ve seen that with “shall not be infringed.”

We’ve seen that with “consent of the governed.”

We see that now with “any people anywhere.” (No! No! It doesn’t mean Americans!)


1,190 posted on 02/19/2019 5:57:32 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
jeffersondem: "We see that now with “any people anywhere.” (No! No! It doesn’t mean Americans!)"

Sure, "having the power", so no power=no right.
If secessionists then test their power by declaring & waging war on their "former country", well they better have lots & lots of power.

jeffersondem: " 'Whatever interpretation' he says, as if the meaning of Lincoln’s declaration is unknown - and unknowable."

No, it's totally knowable but you guys misinterpret it.

Regardless of your misinterpretation, Lincoln's 1847 opinion was subsumed, if not overridden, by his 1861 Oath of Office.

jeffersondem: "Brings to mind the comment of Samuel Adams: 'How strangely will the tools of a tyrant pervert the plain meaning of words.' "

Doubtless Adams had in mind the people who first abrogated Americans' charter of self government, then declared & waged war on Americans.

1,192 posted on 02/20/2019 12:23:26 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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