They never have a good answer to Congressman Lincoln espousing secession....”a principle to liberate the world”. The 13 colonies of course seceded from the British Empire with absolutely no legal right to do so.
So the PC Revisionists try to just mindlessly repeat “slavery, slavery, slavery” hoping nobody will bother looking at the facts and seeing it clearly wasn’t about that. What’s funny is seeing people here who claim to be Conservative lining up with those big government, centralized power, Leftists in Academia who espouse this BS.
Whether you admit them as "good" or not, the answers are:
FLT-bird: "The 13 colonies of course seceded from the British Empire with absolutely no legal right to do so."
Absolutely false, since Founders' legal right was spelled out in the Declaration, "a long train of abuses and usurpations" leading to British unilateral abrogation of legitimate American self-government.
No such abuses remotely existed in 1860.
FLT-bird: "So the PC Revisionists try to just mindlessly repeat 'slavery, slavery, slavery' hoping nobody will bother looking at the facts and seeing it clearly wasnt about that. "
But "slavery, slavery, slavery" was absolutely the major issue listed in Deep South "Reasons for Secession" documents.
And once war began, slavery soon became an issue when Union troops freed Confederate "contraband of war" and Confederates seized Union freedmen for sale in Confederate slave markets.
By 1862 Civil War was not just for Union, but also for emancipation.
FLT-bird: "Whats funny is seeing people here who claim to be Conservative lining up with those big government, centralized power, Leftists in Academia who espouse this BS."
But there was nothing "big government, centralized power" advocated by Republicans in 1860 or later, except as a consequence of the war itself.
Excluding debt payments, Federal spending was 2.6% of GDP in 1858, 2.5% in 1871.
Today's is roughly 20%.
As for our academic Leftists, it's remarkable how eagerly Lost Causers grasp their economic dialectics, or anything else except the real reasons, to explain everything Civil War.
"Methodist Rev. John T. Wightman, preaching at Yorkville, South Carolina:
'The triumphs of Christianity rest this very hour upon slavery; and slavery depends on the triumphs of the South . . .
This war is the servant of slavery.'
[The Glory of God, the Defence of the South (1861), cited in Eugene Genovese's Consuming Fire (1998).]"
The founding fathers didn’t secede, they rebelled. They knew this, they never claimed they had any legal right to leave the British Empire. They claimed they had a natural right to revolt after a long chain of abuses and after trying for years to get London to listen to them.
Contrast that with a bunch of slave owners rebelling because a person they didn’t like was elected in a free and fair election.