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Let's Address Shepard Smith's "refutation" of Trump's speech on Border Security
Fox TV | 01/08/2019 | Vanity

Posted on 01/08/2019 7:04:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind

I tuned in to Fox TV to watch Trump's Speech on Border Security anchored by none other than Shepard Smith ( and supported by Chris Wallace ).

I was hoping that Fox would at least give some balanced report on Donald Trump's speech unlike the other alphabet channel's pundits.

But just like that Shep Smith, just a few seconds after Trump finished his speech gave the following "refutation" (Note the quotes) of Trump's points ( I think Smith had already prepared his talking points having seen the contents of Trump's speech before hand ):

1) On average, the crime rate of illegals is LOWER than the crime rate of Americans and legal immigrants. It is unfortunate that

NO CRISIS AT THE BORDER.

2) For the past several years, the number of Mexicans moving back to Mexico EXCEEDS the number of Mexican illegals coming to the USA. In other words, illegal crossings are actually DOWN, not UP.

NO CRISIS AT THE BORDER.

3) Drugs like heroin or opioids do not mostly come in from our borders with Mexico but from other ports of entries. We should focus on those other port of entries, not waste billions of dollars building the wall.

NO CRISIS AT THE BORDER.

4) The number of illegal overstays in the USA far exceeds the number of illegal crossings at our borders. Trump is overemphasizing the border when he should be focusing on those illegal overstayers.

NO CRISIS AT THE BORDER.

5) Trump owns the shutdown because he himself said that he would be proud to own the shutdown. As this drags on for months, millions of people will be without their paychecks to pay for their day to day living.

OK, one thing I would like to request -- please refrain from remarks that say -- Shep Smith is a gay, liberal jerk. I already know how you feel about him.

I want to read your calm, rational, refutations of Shep Smith's arguments. Let's focus on his arguments and refute them.


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To: SeekAndFind

Why would anyone want to waste their time refuting democrat talking points, which is what the gay liberal jerk was spouting?


21 posted on 01/08/2019 7:18:23 PM PST by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Feeling a little needy, Sheppie?

What else is new.


22 posted on 01/08/2019 7:18:36 PM PST by Conserv (alifornia soe)
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To: SeekAndFind

Honestly, Shemp and his points are never worth addressing. He usually is not on at night, so FOX brought him out to offend people.

Must have been a slow night at the bath house.


23 posted on 01/08/2019 7:18:37 PM PST by dforest (Just shut up Obama. Maybe everyone should just shut up!)
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To: 11th_VA

RE: Illegals are twice as likely to commit a crime as legal residents.

Thanks for addressing the argument itself. Do you have good sources to back this up?


24 posted on 01/08/2019 7:19:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
The argument is this, from 1920 to 1965 we had a very restrictive immigration policy with quotas. The only people who got in were those had skills we needed and those who deserved it. In about 1965 the Democrats changed things and went to the mess we have now.

We can't afford the Illegals, the cost is about $40,000 a person on benefits, who pays that, we the taxpayers.

Most of those coming in do not find jobs or assimilate but just look for benefits and do not contribute to the country overall.

For the Liberals the question is how many is enough, do we have wide open borders and take in millions then what. What is the strain on all our resources if we did that? It will be catastrophic.

Then we have diseases being brought here we have already conquered and the potential for those we haven't or what about a deadly biological carried by humans?

The list goes on and on and yet the Democrats can't or won't see it. They are in the long cutting their own throats if they think we as a nation can pay this and survive and more to the point they will survive as a political party.

25 posted on 01/08/2019 7:19:10 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: jazusamo

Lindsay Graham was amazing., I have never before heard him sound so smart, powerful and well-spoken.


26 posted on 01/08/2019 7:20:37 PM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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To: Bullish

RE: Why would anyone want to waste their time refuting democrat talking points

Because we should be presenting the TRUTH and refuting untruths.

If we ignore their points by simply dismissing them as a waste of time, we would in effect not be interested in presenting the truth.


27 posted on 01/08/2019 7:20:49 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shep is a newsreader. It is not his job to shill for democrats.


28 posted on 01/08/2019 7:21:04 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ("The MSM is the enemy of the American people"...Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Shep however expects a wall be constructed to protect his parking spot. (For anyone with a memory of media idiots full of self importance)


29 posted on 01/08/2019 7:21:11 PM PST by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

Only saw Tucker and Hannity. But had it on FBN then flipped back.


30 posted on 01/08/2019 7:21:25 PM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shemp had his talking points given to him by the dnc.


31 posted on 01/08/2019 7:22:53 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
"Shep is a newsreader. It is not his job to shill for democrats."

Oh my, you are stuck in the 70's. This is state run media my friend.

32 posted on 01/08/2019 7:23:03 PM PST by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

A large number of the electorate was unable to even view POTUS DJT words from the OO this evening.

Charter Spectrum, for some mysterious had a nationwide outage minutes before the speech began. If anyone here should be a subscriber to this particular service, please report on the excuse you might have been given.


33 posted on 01/08/2019 7:23:31 PM PST by V K Lee ("VICTORY FOR THE RIGHTEOUS IS JUDGMENT FOR THE WICKED")
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To: SeekAndFind

4) The number of illegal overstays in the USA far exceeds the number of illegal crossings at our borders. Trump is overemphasizing the border when he should be focusing on those illegal overstayers.


The issue is to prevent those who will rape and kill from entering and preventing the raping of those who depend on coyotes. Illegal overstays are vetted for entry and do not have the criminal predilections that border jumpers have.


34 posted on 01/08/2019 7:24:15 PM PST by mongrel
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To: Jamestown1630

Shemp was on the regular Fox brodcast network. While Hannity was on Faux News Channel.


35 posted on 01/08/2019 7:24:16 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Titantic is sailing toward an iceberg. No crisis. Nothing has happened.


36 posted on 01/08/2019 7:24:17 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: SeekAndFind

The Titantic is sailing toward an iceberg. No crisis. Nothing has happened.


37 posted on 01/08/2019 7:24:47 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: mongrel

RE: Illegal overstays are vetted for entry and do not have the criminal predilections that border jumpers have.

Do we have reliable statistics that show this? If so, what is the source, from DHS? Thanks.


38 posted on 01/08/2019 7:26:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
I am confused by this. I watched the President's speech on Fox News and it was at the beginning of Sean Hannity's show. Hannity said a couple of words of introduction and segued to the speech. Afterwards, Hannity had Lindsey Graham who was spectacular and there- Kevin McCarthy, Mark Levin, etc. I did not stay with the coverage after Graham.

I am in the mountain time zone. Would that make a difference?

39 posted on 01/08/2019 7:26:02 PM PST by luv2ski
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To: SeekAndFind

These liberals always obfuscate the issue with silly arguments.


40 posted on 01/08/2019 7:26:16 PM PST by HighSierra5
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