Posted on 01/03/2019 8:36:53 AM PST by reaganaut1
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The most obvious way that cannabis fuels violence in psychotic people is through its tendency to cause paranoia. Even marijuana advocates acknowledge that the drug can cause paranoia; the risk is so obvious that users joke about it, and dispensaries advertise certain strains as less likely to do so. But for people with psychotic disorders, paranoia can fuel extreme violence. A 2007 paper in the Medical Journal of Australia looked at 88 defendants who had committed homicide during psychotic episodes. It found that most of the killers believed they were in danger from the victim, and almost two-thirds reported misusing cannabis—more than alcohol and amphetamines combined.
The link between marijuana and violence doesn’t appear limited to people with pre-existing psychosis. Researchers have studied alcohol and violence for generations, proving that alcohol is a risk factor for domestic abuse, assault and even murder. Far less work has been done on marijuana, in part because advocates have stigmatized anyone who raises the issue. Still, there are studies showing that marijuana use is a significant risk factor for violence.
A 2012 paper in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence, examining a federal survey of more than 9,000 adolescents, found that marijuana use was associated with a doubling of domestic violence in the U.S. A 2017 paper in the journal Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology, examining drivers of violence among 6,000 British and Chinese men, found that drug use was linked to a fivefold increase in violence, and the drug used was nearly always cannabis.
Before states legalized recreational cannabis, advocates predicted that legalization would let police focus on hardened criminals rather than on marijuana smokers and thus reduce violent crime.
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Some people can use it and some people can’t. But the same is true for anti-anxiety and anti-depression drugs.
I can use MJ but I am very sensitive to it. I get really stoned and sleep hard but I haven’t tried it since 1987.
Nah. They’ll just sell cheap, non-taxed weed.
My daughter buys it in DC “legally”. I can buy Johnny Walker Blue Scotch for less.
But how cold is it?
What about those that smoke to help alleviate epilepsy and other chronic illnesses and diseases?
they can try
but why bother when weed is not risky anymore
Wouldn’t you just take fewer puffs/tokes/draws then? I mean as a responsible user. 10 mg THC back then is the same as 10 mg now. The only real problem I have is with some of the concentrates, where THC percentage can exceed 90%. In that case even a single puff can overwhelm a new user.
Have you seen the online vids of people..all ages..smoking much more than a little?
I guess they are the “experienced” users?
Which brings up my other issue..smoking massive amounts of any smoke can not be good for the repository system.
Who pays for it?
If young women of child bearing age were addicted or even using drugs from 1900-1920 to the extent that young women today are, there wold have been no “greatest generation”. The current epidemic is having a devastating , detrimental effect on this country and it is only going to get worse.
Note I was talking about “responsible users”. I agree with you about the deleterious effects of smoke. Vaping instead of smoking is a way to greatly reduce the hazards, since no combustion occurs and therefore known carcinogens are not generated or inhaled.
No, those are the dumb users.
Which brings up my other issue..smoking massive amounts of any smoke can not be good for the repository system. Who pays for it?
Who pays for tobacco smokers? Should we ban tobacco?
“Guess what? They’re not going away. If they’re making money hand over fist selling it when it’s illegal then why would they stop when it’s legal? They’re going to easily be able to undercut commercial pot.”
Exactly, just like all the illegal tobacco folks buy all the time instead of the commercial stuff... (rolls eyes) Don’t tell me there’s not enough money in it, with a pack of cigarettes going for over $10 a lot of places these days.
The fact is that the only extra cost legit growers face is taxation, but they don’t have the cost of mitigating law enforcement, or transporting the product from outside the country. It’s also likely that legally grown pot is higher quality and not coated in insecticide...or paraquat (remember that?).
Another thing for you to chew on is that in most states where it’s been legalized, it’s allowed to just grow it yourself. That pretty well takes care of any cost related argument you might make...
What "epidemic"?
This thread isn’t about tobacco.
But anyone who smokes cigarette
..or drinks booze .. Or gambles away their life’s saving ..or whatever poor choices they make.. should except the consequences..its the libitarian thing to do.
If a doctor legitimately prescribes that I have no issues with it at all. That doesn't mean, however, that there aren't side effects. There are a lot of drugs that deal with one set of symptoms but create other issues.
If you don't want to talk about tobacco, don't make anti-pot arguments that equally apply to tobacco.
“Nice point. Keep it under your hat moving forward.
It is about getting HIGH and not about quenching thirst or alleviating hunger.”
Actually, it’s about “correlation is not causation”. You might want to read up on that...
The death rates from illegal drug overdoses in the US and the rate of addiction constitutes an epidemic throughout the country. The number of brain damaged children (autism,learning disabilities etc) who’s mothers used illegal drugs is at an all time high and is also part of this epidemic. Those who advocate the legalization of marijuana and other drugs are ignorant of history. Like Prohibition or not but after it was repealed the amount of alcohol related deaths, diseases and social dysfunction sky rocketed. sorry but it really happened and with the legalization of marijuana, thigs will get worse.
Drug trafficking is a major source of revenue for the black projects world, and a major source of revenue for banks in laundering the billions. The only way those will allow national legalization is if something has taken over as a more lucrative drug to traffic.
There is no evidence that anyone ever died of a marijuana overdose.
The number of brain damaged children (autism,learning disabilities etc) who’s mothers used illegal drugs is at an all time high and is also part of this epidemic.
"All time high" does not prove "epidemic" - and the degree to which marijuana has contributed is purely speculative.
Like Prohibition or not but after it was repealed the amount of alcohol related deaths, diseases and social dysfunction sky rocketed.
I know of no evidence for these claims and doubt them.
On your profile page, the David Barton quote is something we freepers ought to discuss in a stand alone thread, perhaps? I am one who agrees completely in what Barton wrote on, and see that perspective as something to be amplified in the next two years of unconstitutional foolery from demon rat’s rule of the House.
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