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To: spetznaz
You may imagine that you know a lot about RSA and I'll grant you that you appear to know some facts, however, blacks, wealthy, middle class, and poor have been educated ( or at least it was open to them ) for longer than you appear to know. Were all of their school lousy? NO! Where all of them good? NO!

It's all really much more complex than what I'm prepared to post, right now.

69 posted on 12/18/2018 10:09:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I am curious as to what exactly in my post you disagree with. Genuinely curious. If it is education - I did mention that among the upper crust blacks they have gotten good education, but I still stand by my point that the vast (vast) majority are not getting anything that would be considered competitive. Note that the groundswell of resentment is not among the wealthy (I find them similar to oligarchs) or the middle class (mostly haughty and trying to take advance of the BEE system to the hilt) ...it is amongst the poor, and those are many and they have the type of education that is geared towards making them able to receive instructions (I am oversimplifying it on purpose, but suffice it to say it is not anything we would want our kids ‘learning’). And learning is not just about curriculum ...it is about a whole host of aspects ranging from facilities, to the capability of teachers, to whether the parents even fully understand the importance of education.

Anyway, I wonder what part of my post was wrong. I agree I used a sarcastic tone in it (based on many people usually commenting on something they don’t only understand but cannot understand - you do seem to know the country though), and if I was not jet lagged and on a short connection stop I would have been more attentive to decorum and propriety.

But I don’t think I said anything that is not factual. I genuinely think it is a powder keg, I think there is a whole host of catalysts and reagents that can trigger a reaction, I think the seeds were planted a long time ago during the decades of apartheid, I think most blacks there will never feel fully there, and the resentment just gets bigger as the country gets ever richer and all the poor blacks see is brownouts, lack of opportunities, etc.

Another thing by the way I find funny is that there is an entire generation of youth that have grown up without apartheid. That is a big danger! Why? Because the older folk - even when they suffer and rail their fists on power cuts and no water and no whatever - can always say that at least they are ‘free’ (silent chuckle from me). They can at least say they have ‘self governance’ and can try and glean some little comfort from that (slightly less silent chuckle).

But the young folk - nothing to compare and contrast. All they see is mostly lack without a backdrop, and many of the supporters of firebrands railing against the whites are young. The youth are the rabble.

Anyways, I should have been less sarcastic ...but there’s nothing I said that I would take back. Maybe nuance it better, but the resentment is bad.

72 posted on 12/18/2018 10:57:26 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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