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To: nopardons
I am curious as to what exactly in my post you disagree with. Genuinely curious. If it is education - I did mention that among the upper crust blacks they have gotten good education, but I still stand by my point that the vast (vast) majority are not getting anything that would be considered competitive. Note that the groundswell of resentment is not among the wealthy (I find them similar to oligarchs) or the middle class (mostly haughty and trying to take advance of the BEE system to the hilt) ...it is amongst the poor, and those are many and they have the type of education that is geared towards making them able to receive instructions (I am oversimplifying it on purpose, but suffice it to say it is not anything we would want our kids ‘learning’). And learning is not just about curriculum ...it is about a whole host of aspects ranging from facilities, to the capability of teachers, to whether the parents even fully understand the importance of education.

Anyway, I wonder what part of my post was wrong. I agree I used a sarcastic tone in it (based on many people usually commenting on something they don’t only understand but cannot understand - you do seem to know the country though), and if I was not jet lagged and on a short connection stop I would have been more attentive to decorum and propriety.

But I don’t think I said anything that is not factual. I genuinely think it is a powder keg, I think there is a whole host of catalysts and reagents that can trigger a reaction, I think the seeds were planted a long time ago during the decades of apartheid, I think most blacks there will never feel fully there, and the resentment just gets bigger as the country gets ever richer and all the poor blacks see is brownouts, lack of opportunities, etc.

Another thing by the way I find funny is that there is an entire generation of youth that have grown up without apartheid. That is a big danger! Why? Because the older folk - even when they suffer and rail their fists on power cuts and no water and no whatever - can always say that at least they are ‘free’ (silent chuckle from me). They can at least say they have ‘self governance’ and can try and glean some little comfort from that (slightly less silent chuckle).

But the young folk - nothing to compare and contrast. All they see is mostly lack without a backdrop, and many of the supporters of firebrands railing against the whites are young. The youth are the rabble.

Anyways, I should have been less sarcastic ...but there’s nothing I said that I would take back. Maybe nuance it better, but the resentment is bad.

72 posted on 12/18/2018 10:57:26 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

Take advance = take advantage


73 posted on 12/18/2018 11:01:08 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

then why does the responsibility of education and living conditions continually fall in the laps of whites?? why is it elite blacks dont step in/up and educate their own?? could there be a reason for this??


83 posted on 12/19/2018 2:34:53 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: spetznaz
Your tone didn't help and neither does your supercilious attitude!

You only imagine that I you "know" what's what about RSA, the blacks there, the education history of its education system, etc.; however, there are huge holes in that supposed "knowledge"!

For but two examples...1) I doubt that you actually know what started the Soweto riots 2)you obviously know nothing about the black students' riots in the best Unis; elsewise you wouldn't have posted some of the patently false garbage you did!

So it's "ONLY" the bottom of the barrel poor who are the ones who seethe with resentment( HATE )for the whites, is it? IN WHAT UNIVERSE?

Once Mandela and the ANC took over ( and these "leaders" WERE WEALTHY OR MIDDLE CLASS BLACKS! ), it was they who started off by kicking out almost ALL white policemen, at every level, and installing PARTY HACKS in those posts; ditto for replacing whites, in businesses, with NO-SHOW, well paying jobs and making the remaining whites do two or even three jobs, just to keep the one they had.

When that idiot turncoat Zulu Zuma brought KILL THE BOER song to the fore, by singing it himself, AS PRESIDENT OF RAS, he most assuredly had NEVER been some "poor, bottom of the barrel black"!

And when Mnbeki, took over, after "SAINT NELSON", everyone thought that he would be able to pull it off because he seemed to be so rational and was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO well educated! But he was just another POS.

Just because most people here, on this site, and in the West know very little about RSA, don't assume that I don't!

There used to be a group of us, here on FR, who were either from RSA, has family there, or did business there and we tried and tried to counter all of the garbage and misinformation posted by those who neither knew nor understood this topic. Sadly almost all of that group gave up, because it's a losing battle, as is blatantly obvious by a good many comments on this thread...including yours!

The only thing that you said, that is true, is that yes, the young are today's RABID RABBLE and they have been brainwashed.

When that idiot Noah whatever his name is, was just a comic in RSA, he, or so I'm told,BY SOMEONE WHO WOULD KNOW, was funny and unpolitical. Now that he has an American T.V. show, he's just an unfunny, faaaaaaaaaaaar lefty jerk.

122 posted on 12/19/2018 4:23:48 PM PST by nopardons
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