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To: IrishBrigade
I don't want to be insulting, but "freeborn" is a word without referent.

You had nothing to do with your coming into existence. You are not a self-invented entity. You had no choices to make about your physical, mental, or emotional characteristics, your talents, your temperament, your genetic, environmental, or social endowments, neither your nature nor your nurture, nor even your inclinations or preferences.

NOTHING you have is "from you."

The whole concept of "freeborn," it seems to me, represents a failure to grasp your own fundamental condition.

I may have misunderstood what you mean by it; so if I have been barking up the wrong tree, please redirect me and tell me what you're talking about.

44 posted on 12/04/2018 2:00:16 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

‘You had no choices to make about your physical, mental, or emotional characteristics, your talents, your temperament, your genetic, environmental, or social endowments, neither your nature nor your nurture, nor even your inclinations or preferences.

I had nothing to do with who I am...? are you serious...?

‘The whole concept of “freeborn,” it seems to me, represents a failure to grasp your own fundamental condition.’

‘fundamental condition’; talk about a non referent...but I’ll take that to mean that I don’t acknowledge a divine spark in my formation, to which I would answer I am not an atheist, but an apatheist; it is not belief of it I lack, but a sense of its necessity...


55 posted on 12/04/2018 2:20:52 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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