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Border wall bickering raises odds of shutdown
The Hill ^ | 12/01/18 | Niv Elis

Posted on 12/01/2018 11:05:10 AM PST by yesthatjallen

Democrats and Republicans are hardening their positions on President Trump's proposed border wall, raising the odds of a partial government shutdown this month.

The White House and Senate Democrats are already pointing fingers over who would be to blame if a shutdown occurs, with each accusing the other side of precipitating a potential funding lapse over the wall.

"If President Trump wants to throw a temper tantrum and shut down some departments and agencies over Christmas, that's certainly within his power," Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Thursday on the Senate floor.

The White House shot back, accusing Democrats of preferring a shutdown instead of stronger border security.

"Another Schumer shutdown would not surprise anyone, it has become the new norm in Washington," said Meghan Burris, a spokeswoman for the White House's Office of Management and Budget.

The federal government briefly shutdown in January after a standoff over whether to extend protections to “Dreamers,” young immigrants who came to the country illegally as children, and again in February over spending disagreements.

This time around, Congress has until Dec. 7 to pass seven appropriations bills to keep the entire government funded. Portions of the government funded in the five previous bills, which Trump signed in September, would not be affected by a shutdown.

But without an agreement on the wall early this week, Congress will likely have to pass a short-term extension to keep the government funded and allow more time for negotiations.

So far, little progress has been made.

The Senate passed its version of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) spending bill with bipartisan support over the summer. The measure would allocate $1.6 billion for border security, including pedestrian fencing in the Rio Grande Valley. That sum was in line with the White House’s budget request at the time.

But the White House later said it wanted more money.

Trump told Republican appropriators in a tense meeting in June, before the Senate passed its DHS bill, that the figure was not high enough, and demanded $5 billion to fund the wall. When House Republicans passed their version of the bill in committee a few weeks later, they allocated the full $5 billion.

The president has since threatened to veto any spending bill that doesn’t fund the wall to his satisfaction, telling Politico this week that he would “totally be willing" to shut down the government if there’s an impasse.

Rather than moving toward an agreement, negotiators on both sides have dug in their heels.

"The president has been very clear that $5 billion is the number that we're going to be focused on, the number we need," Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.), the incoming House Republican Conference chairwoman, said on Tuesday.

In his Thursday floor speech, Schumer said Republicans could choose one of two “reasonable” options to avert a shutdown: Stick with the Senate-passed bill from the summer or keep 2018 funding levels in place through Sept. 30 by passing a continuing resolution.

“President Trump has a simple choice of two good, bipartisan options. If he decides to support either the bipartisan DHS bill or a continuing resolution, I am confident that both would pass by comfortable margins,” Schumer said. “The only position that cannot garner 60 votes is the president’s position.”

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), the top Senate appropriator, has been working to advance a compromise that would secure $5 billion in wall funding over two years. Democrats would have to agree to an additional $900 million in funding for 2018, and forego a fight over wall funding in fiscal year 2019, which ends Sept. 30.

House Democrats said the Shelby proposal was untenable.

“No matter how many years you spread it over, $5 billion for President Trump’s wasteful wall is too much money,” said Rep. Nita Lowey (D-N.Y.), the House’s top Democratic appropriator.

Other political and legislative obstacles are complicating matters.

Democrats, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), are pushing for the spending bill to include legislation that would protect special counsel Robert Mueller and his Russia investigation.

Pelosi has little incentive to cave to Trump’s demands as she attempts to win over the remaining skeptics in her party to support her bid for Speaker on Jan. 3.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has worked to sideline the Mueller bill but faces additional pressure from retiring Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who is opposing Trump’s judicial nominations until the Senate votes on the Mueller measure.

Congressional leaders want to avoid extending their legislative session past Dec. 14. Before then, they need to pass a farm bill and reach a long-term agreement on national flood insurance, with Republicans wanting to push through a slate of court nominees.

With Democrats taking control of the House next month, Republicans know they will be in a weakened negotiating position come January, increasing the chances that Trump will follow through on his threats to veto a spending bill that doesn’t meet his funding demands for the wall.

In the past, he has backed down on such threats, but he seems convinced that standing firm on the issue will benefit him politically.

"I don't do anything ... just for political gain," Trump said this week. "But I will tell you, politically speaking, that issue is a total winner.”


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KEYWORDS: border; borderwall; gopemeansbendover; illegalaliens; spellrun; trump
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1 posted on 12/01/2018 11:05:10 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Fully fund the wall. No fencing, no wire! Build the American great wall!


2 posted on 12/01/2018 11:12:28 AM PST by Lopeover (POTUS needs Republicans, the Midterm Election is about allegiance to the America First agenda!)
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To: yesthatjallen

shut that crap down..

no one that matters will notice anyways.

Also NO BACK PAY.


3 posted on 12/01/2018 11:16:33 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Lopeover

Seems that little boy Schumer is the one throwing the temper tantrum. His statement that the Repubs control both houses of congress and the presidency and thus can do whatever they want is disengenuous. McConnell should have held a presser and addressed Schumer’s comments saying that 60 votes are needed and Schumer and the Dems are blocking everything. And, that since Schumer is saying they (the Repubs) control everything, that he, McConnell, is getting rid of the 60 vote requirement. Then lets see what lies Schumer would come up with. Dems lack any ethics or honesty.


4 posted on 12/01/2018 11:19:00 AM PST by falcon99
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To: falcon99

If the government shuts down the republicans will take the blame. It’s all they know how to do.


5 posted on 12/01/2018 11:21:28 AM PST by Terry Mross (On some threads it's best to go jst inraight up his seat. to the comments..)
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To: yesthatjallen

The TRUMP Wall. TOWERing into the sky.


6 posted on 12/01/2018 11:34:24 AM PST by Leep (we need a Trump like leader for President 2024!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Double dog dare ‘em to “shut ‘er down”.


7 posted on 12/01/2018 11:35:00 AM PST by rktman ( #My2nd! Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH)
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To: yesthatjallen

One would think that the Dems would see the necessity of building a wall. Immigration is a problem and so is security. They agree with that.


8 posted on 12/01/2018 11:37:07 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: yesthatjallen

To issue or not to issue, welfare payments, is entirely up to the democrats.


10 posted on 12/01/2018 12:05:16 PM PST by umgud (Now)
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To: yesthatjallen

I’m guessing that this is a bunch of kabuki theater to politically cover the butts of Senators whose votes are needed. Quid pro quo payoffs were probably discussed months ago.

They just have to make it look like they were forced.

I’ve heard that politics is a lot like pro wrestling - a bunch of middle-aged white guys pretending to hurt each other.


11 posted on 12/01/2018 12:07:13 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: yesthatjallen

The weak knees repubs had two years to get this done. No sympathy


12 posted on 12/01/2018 12:24:51 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: yesthatjallen

Fedzilla does NOT shutdown.

Ever.

Dammit.


13 posted on 12/01/2018 12:28:23 PM PST by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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To: falcon99

Absolutely! As Alinsky wrote, one of the ways for the revolutionaries to succeed is to accuse their opponents of doing exactly what thety, the revolutionaries, are doing. It puts the traditionalists on the defensive. F U Schumar is doing just that—along with the rest of the “progressives”. Liberalism leaves a bad taste in our mouths, so they changed their name.


14 posted on 12/01/2018 1:43:55 PM PST by RightLady (Save Western Civilization.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Fully fund the wall or shut the capon government down. Who cares?


15 posted on 12/01/2018 1:53:09 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: yesthatjallen
Democrats and Republicans are hardening their positions on President Trump's proposed border wall

Of course, Republicans didn't harden their position on the border wall when they controlled the House and could actually do something about it. Empty rhetoric - Republicans in general are only tough on illegal immigration when they can tell voters they can't do anything about it.
16 posted on 12/01/2018 2:06:21 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: yesthatjallen

Prez can shut this gooberment down forever and a day for all I care!!!! If we had an honest media, the people would know gooberment employees will get back pay. If the goobs are shut down, better for us, bad for those who planned visits to WDC. Just goes to show, many factors are against planning too early........lol


17 posted on 12/01/2018 2:16:52 PM PST by Dawgreg
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To: Dawgreg

or any government run facility..........sorry folks


18 posted on 12/01/2018 2:17:55 PM PST by Dawgreg
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To: yesthatjallen

Let me get this straight.. threatening a shut down.. why not last year. Its WWE politicking.


19 posted on 12/01/2018 2:59:53 PM PST by momincombatboots (How many vetoed spending dollars with chuck n Nancy without wall funding?)
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To: Terry Mross

The Prez decides what gets shut down and what stays open


20 posted on 12/01/2018 4:40:24 PM PST by kaktuskid
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