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China refuses millions of citizens to buy airline and train tickets
Vergens Nyheter ^ | 24.11.18 21:03 Updated: 24.11.18 21:19 | Runa Fjellanger

Posted on 11/25/2018 6:05:41 PM PST by robowombat

China refuses millions of citizens to buy airline and train tickets If Chinese citizens buy "too many" computer games or share false news, they can be penalized. The government's social credit rating can have consequences such as losing the opportunity to book airline tickets - and to have pets.

Millions of Chinese are refused to buy airline or train tickets, writes The Independent . The reason is China's new system of social credit rating, which is used to monitor and assess residents. Are you Chinese, your behavior affects your social credit rating. While a credit rating is usually used to estimate how likely it is that you can run a loan, China's social credit rating will provide government information about where "trustworthy" citizens are.

The system rewards Chinese people who donate blood and work voluntarily while breaking traffic laws, smoking where prohibited, buying "too many" video games and sharing false news online is punished, according to Foreign Policy .

11 million refused to fly In parts of China, including in Hangzhou, Shanghai, the system is introduced. It is expected that it will be nationwide by 2020.

According to the state-run news agency Global Times , the authorities had blacklisted 11.14 million Chinese people from booking airline tickets, while 4.25 million refused to book tickets for jet jets. In addition, three million have been deprived of the opportunity to book business class train tickets.

The goal of the system is to make it more difficult for "unreliable" residents and organizations to move freely, writes The Independent . In a plan published this week, according to the newspaper, among other things, "those who break the law and lose trust will pay an expensive price."

The goal is for people with bad social credit rating to become bankrupt, writes Global Times . The state-run news agency also cites what should be a Chinese government employee that "if [China] does not increase the cost of being discredited, we urge discredited to continue as usual."

It is uncertain how China will penalize citizens with bad credit ratings beyond restricting the ability to move freely, but The Independent writes that it will probably mean slower internet, becoming blacklisted for some jobs and hotels, limited access to good schools and losing the right to own a pet.

In addition to low-risk residents being punished by losing opportunities and rights, the authorities will also publish lists of who are "unreliable".


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: china
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To: robowombat

Slave training.

If Putin were doing this in Russia, the US media would be screaming. But since the ChiComs have a financial interest in the US media, this story is not reported.


21 posted on 11/25/2018 8:52:40 PM PST by Flick Lives
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To: robowombat

What I am about to say has probably never been taught in American schools. When the Soviet Union was still around, they controlled the populace by denying them the ability to leave their small, local area. One had to have their ‘papers’ in order to travel to anywhere outside of their local town. And, here’s the key, they did not provide ‘papers’ to millions of their ‘citizens’ (really prisoners). In present day China, they are just taking it to the next level. Incorrect action, thought, suspicion of same will have dire consequences. If you arrest and make disappear a few million, the billions still alive will act, and think’ correctly.’


22 posted on 11/25/2018 9:22:43 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try.)
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To: robowombat

And what tech companies are assisting them in this effort? Don’t be evil!


23 posted on 11/25/2018 9:23:25 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: vannrox

You really think it will happen to a non Chinese? Nice of you to stick up for a well-documented abusive red China.


24 posted on 11/25/2018 9:25:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: robowombat

OOPS! They didn’t pass the credit score!


25 posted on 11/25/2018 9:28:12 PM PST by caww
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III
Back in the Cold War circa 1955 this topic was regularly mentioned as just another example of what villainous ba*tards the soviets were.
26 posted on 11/25/2018 9:29:02 PM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: vannrox

I appreciate your boots-on-the-ground report on China. Be aware, yours is an extremely limited view (one in a nation of billions) and is very anecdotal, but it is appreciated nonetheless.

Some of these reports are likely true and you haven’t been effected, such as the Social Score story that appeared recently.

And some of these reports are pure bullshit.


27 posted on 11/25/2018 9:35:29 PM PST by Lazamataz (You know, when I advised Democrats to vote AFTER Nov 6th, I didn't think they'd actually DO it.)
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To: robowombat
The system rewards Chinese people who donate blood and work voluntarily while breaking traffic laws, smoking where prohibited

So if you donate blood and volunteer, all while smoking and breaking traffic laws....is that good or bad?

28 posted on 11/25/2018 9:37:26 PM PST by Lazamataz (You know, when I advised Democrats to vote AFTER Nov 6th, I didn't think they'd actually DO it.)
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To: robowombat

Good luck with that system trying to Oppress 800 million people


29 posted on 11/25/2018 9:39:25 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: robowombat

this is our future.....some of us on the other side of 60 will be gone when it all comes to fruition, but our children and our grandchildren.......*sigh*


30 posted on 11/25/2018 11:52:22 PM PST by cherry (official troll)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Anyone who wants to outlaw cash money needs to be executed by firing squad.


In China, they do the opposite ...


31 posted on 11/26/2018 12:37:13 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: cba123

We really, really need to bring back American production ...


First: we need to bring back American education
Second: we need to bring back American work ethic
Third: then we can bring back American production


32 posted on 11/26/2018 12:42:15 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

What I am about to say has probably never been taught in American schools.


Never meaning since the late 80s early 90s perhaps ...


33 posted on 11/26/2018 12:43:55 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Lazamataz

For what ever it is worth, I am married to a fine Chinese wife and I am quite established in China. I have a large network of friends and business associates all through China. In fact, my network is far, far, FAR larger than anything that I ever had in the States.

Whenever there is an issue, I’m usually made aware of it.

(1) When the corruption police was cracking down on pollution emissions, I found out about it promptly and followed the issues earnestly.

(2) When the Zhejung government started cracking down on non-bank loaning efforts, I was smack dab in the middle of it.

(3) When the “Great firewall of China” went up, I watched it closely. My IT was busy and we were very involved making sure that our access to gmail and skyPE was not adversely affected.

In general, must of what we read in Western Media are distortions of what is really going on. Sometimes the distortions are so terrible to be far removed from reality; they are unrecognizable.

To which, I must say... UNLESS you experience something personally, it’s all potential fake news.

Hey! Those potholes in Pennsylvania still aren’t fixed. Even after a couple of hundred of tax increases. But, I guess that is not as exciting to read about. You want to read how the Chinese have mastered Big Brother technology and using social media to control the people.

Well...

How about, instead of reading about this you actually get on some Chinese social media platforms yourself. Then you can see how it affects you. WeChat, QQ, are just for starters.

That’s all that I am saying.

Seriously people, stop being spoon-fed the “news”. It all stopped being news two decades ago. Now it is all computer generated manipulation.

People... the MOST DANGEROUS news, is the news you WANT to believe. For then you are most prone to manipulation.


34 posted on 11/26/2018 12:59:47 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Don’t be Google.”


35 posted on 11/26/2018 2:48:28 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: lightman; Lurker; acapesket; Baynative; beef; BullDog108; Califreak; cgbg; ...
Thanks for the ping lightman.

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If you'd like to be on or off this list, please click Private Reply below and drop me a FReepmail.

36 posted on 11/26/2018 4:28:45 AM PST by upchuck (When hatred of culture becomes itself a part of culture, the life of the mind loses all meaning.)
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To: vannrox

Interesting. I will concede all of your points.


37 posted on 11/26/2018 5:01:42 AM PST by Lazamataz (You know, when I advised Democrats to vote AFTER Nov 6th, I didn't think they'd actually DO it.)
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To: vannrox
I think one of the main reasons that people here in the USA believe such reports is that we see both real and potential 1984-style problems right here. I see our tech monopolies using their power to censor and interfere in elections here. It is likely that those US businesses do so partly because of foreign pressure, and not only from China.

Speaking of airports:

Black Mirror: "Nosedive"

38 posted on 11/26/2018 6:48:15 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: Truthoverpower
That is a good point. The Chinese have a long history of dealing with idiot directives from the imperial capital. One smiles, bows and says ‘Of course oh wise Mandarin, we tremble and obey.” Then the merchants march out of the Mandarin's palace and figure out how to have two systems: one that appears to put things into compliance to the latest directive and a real system that totally circumvents the first
39 posted on 11/26/2018 10:22:52 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: robowombat

Then along came Mao and everything changed>


40 posted on 11/26/2018 10:50:41 AM PST by dirtymac
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