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Russia’s Third-Largest City to Pay Tribute to Stalin With New Statue
The Moscow Times ^ | Nov 19, 2018

Posted on 11/19/2018 2:30:51 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

A new Stalin statue will be erected in Russia’s third-largest city of Novosibirsk next spring as the legacy of the Soviet dictator continues to divide society.

Contemporary attitudes are split in Russia toward the historical role of Stalin, who is responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions of Soviet citizens during his rule from 1924 until his death in 1953.

Polls show Russians view him as a “remarkable” figure and the younger population is unaware of Stalin-era purges, while President Vladimir Putin has dismissed attacks on Stalin as a ploy to demonize Russia.

A Novosibirsk action group voted Saturday to install a Stalin bust at the Communist party regional committee’s headquarters, its leader Alexei Denisyuk told Russia’s Komsomolskaya Pravda.

Denisyuk has lobbied to install the monument in a public place since the election of a communist mayor in the city in April 2014.

Denisyuk’s initiative group held a vote weeks after users supported the idea online, but the Novosibirsk art council argued on Nov. 9 that it would provoke acts of vandalism from opponents.

“In connection with city hall’s refusal to agree on the placement of the Stalin monument on public land, we accept the Communist party regional committee’s offer to install the monument on its private territory,” RIA quotes a representative of the action group as saying.

The heated debate over the Stalin monument has spilled over into the streets, where locals discovered snow sculptures depicting Stalin’s bust.

(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Russia
KEYWORDS: communism; gulag; novosibirsk; putinsbuttboys; russia; siberia; stalin; whataretheirfrnicks

1 posted on 11/19/2018 2:30:51 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Put him up with Mao Tse Tung and Adolph Hitler: Gold, Silver and Bronze medals in the XX Century genocide competition.


2 posted on 11/19/2018 2:34:46 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

He wasn’t even tall —maybe 5 foot 7 inches.

He wasn’t Russian, spoke heavily accented Russian.

He had been in the Seminary, dropped out after reading Das Kapital.

Become a bank robber.

They say his drinker dad beat him a lot, meh, I don’t know.


3 posted on 11/19/2018 2:44:55 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Just looked it up:

Stalin was just 5 feet 5 inches tall, even shorter than I thought.


4 posted on 11/19/2018 2:45:45 PM PST by gaijin
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Wow...

I guess ancestors lost don’t matter.


5 posted on 11/19/2018 2:46:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 frm 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Sad.

I would have guessed that because of the nearby Akademgorodok (Science City), Novosibirsk would be less messed up.

Been there a couple of times back in the day, seemed like a relatively decent place.


6 posted on 11/19/2018 3:01:00 PM PST by PlateOfShrimp
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Looks like something they would put up in Seattle or San Fran.


7 posted on 11/19/2018 3:01:49 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; null and void; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal
The Democrats would do the same with Manchurian Candidate Barack Hussein Obama.

In a heartbeat. Or perhaps the twinkling of the eye.

I see them yearn for him at Yahoo. Usually weekly, if not daily.

Cosmo: Do you ever yearn?

George: Yearn? I've yearned!

8 posted on 11/19/2018 3:02:36 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Come on Ivan, Stalin is so 1950.

May I suggest Alexandria Occasional Cortex for an updated model.

5.56mm


9 posted on 11/19/2018 3:10:23 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

People in the US are putting up monuments to Obama. Is there really any difference?


10 posted on 11/19/2018 3:43:23 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Little misleading. The story says the city rejected it and the communist party (11% in the last election) was forced to resort to putting it on their our lawn.

Over there the communist party is pretty much looked at as a bunch of losers and old people.


11 posted on 11/19/2018 4:17:59 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: gaijin

Yezhov one of Stalin’s most murderous NKVD leaders was even shorter at 4’11”. He is the one famously airbrushed out of the photo with 5’5” Stalin by the river.
I think Stalin tolerated him for a while because he made him look tall.


12 posted on 11/19/2018 4:22:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: M Kehoe

Zardoz is available too.
Landru is taken. (guess who got him now)


13 posted on 11/19/2018 4:46:14 PM PST by Doctor DNA (This is not your grandfather's internet.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Russia is schizophrenic - you have Stalin worship side by side with Orthodox Christianity.

The Soviet Union disappeared over a generation ago, yet it retains a hold on the Russian mind.

A vanished superpower makes some people feel nostalgic.


14 posted on 11/19/2018 4:49:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NorthMountain

Sweet Jesus! How many millions of people did he systematically put to death?!?!?!?


15 posted on 11/19/2018 5:03:55 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: MrChips

All told, Hitler’s National Socialist regime was guilty of somewhat short of of twenty million deaths not directly the result of warfare. The six million Jews murdered in death camps were just the beginning.

Under Josef Stalin, the USSR murdered in the neighborhood of 40 million people through engineered famines, death camps, and political “liquidations”. Lenin, and Stalin’s successors added to the total, but Stalin contributed the most.

Under Mao Tse Tung, the PRC murdered in excess of fifty million people during the “cultural revolution”, “great leap forward”, death camps, and similar.

The Chinese and Soviets didn’t keep as good records as the Germans, nor were they conquered in war. Their numbers are a bit harder to pin down. I may have “Silver” and “gold” reversed.

The late Professor R J Rummell (look him up) did extensive work documenting government sponsored mega-murder. Sadly, his pages at the University of Hawaii have fallen into disrepair.


16 posted on 11/19/2018 5:48:55 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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