Posted on 11/19/2018 6:26:26 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke backed President Donald Trump on the years of forest mismanagement that led to the California fires as Zinke joined Breitbart News Sunday radio with host Amanda House.
He suggested that even photos of the devastation don’t do justice to what it was like to see it in person. Pointing to years of neglect and dead and dying timber, he observed, “It was like a flamethrower of embers shooting through the forests.”
“The president is absolutely right. This is as much about mismanagement over time,” said Zinke who pointed to not only the previous administration but that the problem had been “going on for years.” He suggested going “back to prescribed burns late in the season,” removed dead and dying timber, and sustainable harvest. He pointed to Finland and Germany as examples.
He said “radical environmentalists” have filed lawsuits to let “nature take its course” and that these fires are the consequence of allowing nature to do so.
“I will lay this on the foot of those environmental radicals that have prevented us from managing the forests for years and, you know what, this is on them.”
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That was nice of Zinke.
Everyone should Publicly Thank the Sierra Club for all they have done. I will bet my last nickel that most if Not All of those affected in SoCal regularly Donate and Fully Support the Actions of the Sierra Club and the Environmental Communist Groups.
“I will lay this on the foot of those environmental radicals that have prevented us from managing the forests for years and, you know what, this is on them.”
AMEN.
Lived in Fla. since 1969. My state has been doing controlled back burning as far back as I can remember. Even with all the lighning we get, wild fires are fairly rare.
Like the droughts, human error and constant winds don’t have anything to do with it; management or not.
Sometimes shit happens. We have to stop constantly looking for someone to blame. Acts of God exist for a reason.
What really needs to be investigated is why it cost as much or more to “passively manage” the forests. Where did the money go?
Errr...so, removing the fuel by regularly scheduled controlled burning, and removal of diseased/dead timber ahead of God’s action, would have no affect on the intensity of a wild fire? They must not have known that when I studied forest management back in the 60’s.
“That was nice of Zinke.”
Super good of him to put it on the record pointing to the environmental radicals.
They have much blood on their hands.
Like the droughts, human error and constant winds don’t have “anything to do with it; management or not.”
Whaaaat? You actually believe thinning and removal of dead trees and undergrowth will not have any effect on the severity and destructive force of forest fires?
Not only the Sierra Club but Friends of the Earth, Earth First, Greenpeace...
A class action lawsuit should be brought, not only against them, but the state of California and the USFS region.
Cant sue the USFS you say? Well, those clubs sued the USFS to stop countless timber sales in the past and they still do.
There are a few on here that actually believe the best way to manage forests are by letting them burn. No matter what it does. To hell with thousands of homes and hundreds of lives.
Jihadists were advised to time their arson “preferably in the later part of night to the early hours of morning when people are generally asleep,” and instructions were offered on how to block off exits to inflict casualties. For wildfires, ISIS said to look for dry brush “as fire cannot endure in damp or wet environments.” Arsonists were encouraged to leave the mark of ISIS somewhere near the fire site with spray paint or black marker. Suggested target locations for arson attacks, the magazine stated, “include houses and apartment buildings, forest areas adjacent to residential areas, factories that produce cars, furniture, clothing, flammable substances, etc., gas stations, hospitals, bars, dance clubs, night clubs, banks, car showrooms, schools, universities, as well as churches, Rafidi [Shiite] temples, and so forth. The options are vast, leaving no excuse for delay.” https://drudgereport
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There are acts of God, but they should not be as devastating as these fires. It’s aoUR responsibility as we move into areas to manage what we are supposed to be stewards. Forest floors that were cleaned out be herds of herbivores need to be replaced by man. Thinking the forests by logging allows for healthier forests, grazing permits replace undergrowth with “fertilizer”. Allowing roads back into the forests allow for easier management. Before the Econuts took over that was normal and the forest fires that happened were normal and not these horrendous life threatening apocalyptic horrors we have seen the last decade.
If you're speaking of whatever sparked up this blaze, yes. If you're talking about the firetrap that was Paradise? The city was engineered to be unable to handle an emergency evacuation, doubly so if you count trying to evacuate neighboring towns. The city preferred lush forest trees and foliage to envelope the city and homes. The major evacuation route (Skyway) was reduced to a single lane in both directions to maintain the preference for bicycle lanes and middle lane turns into businesses.
If you look at a map of Paradise, it is pretty clear that if Pentz Rd is closed to the south that you've got three options out of the fire.. You either go north to Skyway northbound, west to Skyway southbound or west to Clark Rd. Oh, and at the same time, you have 20,000 other people trying to do exactly the same thing.
Predictably, there was gridlock. Pearson was the first to lock up, trapping people on north-south streets that feed onto it. Elliot and Clark Rd followed as confusion reigned if Clark was or was not open for evacuation - then Clark was blocked by fire south of town.
Skyway (south) was designed to handle 1,000 cars an hour - it's a two lane road now rather than the 4 lane evacuation route it was originally made to be (gotta improve street parking, 'normalize' traffic, have that suicide lane in the middle and plenty of room for bikes...)
New Skyway towards Magalia was thickly bordered with brush and timber, so few locals would trust it in a fire, so the sole road to get out of town was Skyway southbound. Which was a parking lot as people were trying to force their way in from every feeder street. People, seeing the fire coming, rushed to commercial parking lots in the hopes they'd be safe with the limited number of fire engines which could deploy by that point.
Others burned in their cars or fled on foot through flames when it became apparent that the fire would overtake the sideroads they were trying to use to get out of danger.
Paradise effectively made the town an oil soaked rag sitting out in the sun by not requiring clearing of brush and thinning of trees. They effectively locked critical exit doors by narrowing roads and leaving timber and brush up.
I agree how it started can be an act of god; how so many died who were heeding evacuation orders - that I lay upon the city.
Actually letting them burn is fine with me as long as I don’t have to listen too the fools who build homes in the middle of these disaster areas and the whine when they burn down.
I guess we shouldnt listen to the fools who build in tornado alley and get the hell blown out of them either huh?
Or those who build along the east coast either huh?
Or those who build in the snow belts either huh?
In New York HizHonor can’t handle 4 inches of snow either... bi-coastal liberal ‘elites’ are incompetent.
Growing up in Montana, we had a thriving timber industry. a fire that grew to 1000 acres was huge. Since then the spotted owl and other environazi invoked restrictions to timber harvesting has created huge tracts of land ready to torch in an instant. Case in point hundreds of thousands of acres of dead timber from bark beetles - tree huggers fight (with the help of the 9th circus court) to prevent harvesting.
Well, how does global warming do when 100,000+ acre fires break out all over. . . . . .
Oh puhleeeze!!
What can possibly be done to mitigate possibility of a tornado occurring? As for building your home on a beach? Stupid is as stupid does.
That’s a really good question!
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