Posted on 11/12/2018 4:56:55 PM PST by C19fan
Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema has won Arizona's open U.S. Senate seat, beating Republican Rep. Martha McSally. The race between Sinema and McSally was one of the most closely watched in the nation. Sinema was declared the winner Monday as her lead grew insurmountable during Arizona's lengthy vote-count. Sinema is a former liberal activist who became a centrist member of Congress. Her win follows years of Democratic shutouts at the statewide level in Arizona and shows that the longtime Republican bastion is becoming a swing state.
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Good point on the carpetbaggers. Need to be sensitive to that. WV was winnable also until Manchin voted for Kavanaugh. Trump also wasn’t enamored with McSally who was a never-Trumper. A lot of those folks got flushed which should also say something. I expect Trump to have coattails in 2020.
Thanks...I was wondering how many votes were cast in Governor’s race, compared to this Senate race. Just to compare all of the numbers. I sure didn’t word my question very well :-)
I just find it VERY hard to understand how the Repub Gob won, and the R Senator did not....that that many people with split their ballots for this commie, after voting for Doocey.
I wonder how down ballot positions fared....Judges, clerks, etc, comparatively, overall. Compared to Gov vote numbers.
Thanks, again.
Yes lots of poor candidates, the guy in Ohio was awful. I’m sure a very nice guy but all the personality of a wet dishrag. Same with McSally. I voted for her but had the same sick feeling I got when I voted for Romney.
I knew she lost when I saw who showed up at the polls. A whole line of first time voters with their organizer from Resist Arizona.
I know that he won by 350,000 votes. But what was his actual total number of votes, and what was her actual total number of votes? That might tell us something about ballot box stuffing.
Worst I've ever seen
So many of our candidates lost this time around because our own people talked down and hurt them. In my state our Governor wouldn’t even help his own AG with his campaign for Governor (although he still won). I’m old enough to remember the ‘64 election and a big reason why Goldwater got clobbered so badly was because many in the ‘Pub party apparatus hated him and threw their support to Johnson. Look at the disaster that wrought. Today we have the never-Trumpers still spreading their poison. How many votes did that cost us? I don’t know, but my sense is that it was more than a little.
Trump and all the prominent Republicans need to go to a retreat or something and flesh out a plan for 2020. The Party must unite or they will get slaughtered, and Trump goes down with them.
She’s gonna do exactly what chuck u shummer tells her to do.
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I don’tknow About that. I suspect Sinema has Presidential ambitions.
Arizona
Governor’s race
Pro-Trump R - 1,213,849
D - 889,000
Senate race
Trump-shy R - 1,059,000
D - 1,097,000
There’s a lesson there.— Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 (@Cernovich) November 13, 2018
Gov. Doug Ducey won with 1,213,849 votes.
McSally lost with 1,059,000 votes.
More people should be talking about this. https://t.co/DDPeUWX0JW— Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 (@Cernovich) November 13, 2018
A) Anyone who didn’t vote McSally because she is “Trump shy” allegedly (he endorsed her) is an idiot and I’d like to spit on them. That loser whathername who ran in the primary would have been DESTROYED in the general election.
B)But I don’t think that’s why she lost and pretending it is will not help us win the future. It’s suburban people (women) who HATE Trump that voted dem senate/GOP governor. Look at stinking Maricopa county. And look at all the “Trumpers” that went down or almost did. It wasn’t all “RINOs” (who mostly repped bad areas that voted for Hillary and were therefore the most vulnerable to begin with, “Trumpers” would have lost there too) who lost.
C)They won’t of course but the Senate controls it’s own election returns, it should seat McSally cause clearly a lot of illegals voted. The time for playing nice is over. Why not play “dirty”? They are trying to steal Florida, let’s tell them Scott will be seated regardless. Let’s tell them McSally was up on election night so screw this glacial counting, she wins.
Do you think that the “people” can pick the candidates ahead of election season? I mean making an end-run around the state cabals and pick our own candidates by keeping a close eye and ears on people in and around politics. Listen to them and keep up with what and how they vote, how they live and how they project. Then we (Tea Party) start passing along positive Face Book posts to our friends and have them share. Find ways to get our “pick” public exposure on TV & News papers. We have enough conservatives to pick our candidates. The same old, same old, is not working for Republicans. This is the age of communication and we need to take advantage of it. Right now I would like to invite all of you to write or call Sen. Manchin and ask him very nicely to switch parties and promise to support him. He really is more conservative than he is liberal. I believe he was on the verge of switching and now that the dems have taken the congress He may not go through with it. He’s not a bad man.
Depressing!
Ducey got over 300,000 more votes than McSally. There had to be some men votes in there somewhere.
Of course. But women are the real killer. College (White) women (suburbs) voted D. College (White) men still voted R (but not by a whole lot)
But it;s not like conservatives were skipping the Senate race. The vote totals for both races are similar, 50K MORE votes in the Senate race. It was ticket splitters that did McSally in. And people who voted Ducey for Governor and a commie who will oppose Trump at every turn for Senate didn’t do it cause they love Donald Trump and are mad at McSally for not liking him more.
Trump is gonna need AZ electoral votes in 2020. Trump better figure out a way to win AZ if he wants to stay in the WH.
Wow. So part of the reason McSally lost is because some Republican voters left the ballot blank rather than support McSally?? (Because they were pouting that Ward or Arpaio weren't on the ballot)
Unbelievable. At the very least, these pouting Republicans should've considered the narrow margin in the Senate regarding President Trump's next Supreme Court and other judicial picks.
Hope these voters enjoy their new Marxist nutcase Senator for the next 6 years...
Hes currently arm wrestling CNN reporters
Well, this is really mixing apples and oranges.
The senate seat was filled with the most conservative senator since Barry Goldwater, Jon Kyl.
He may not be permanent, but that doesn’t change the fact he was appointed. Honestly, Kyls record is superior to that of Ward’s. I won’t even discuss Joe as a legit senate candidate.
He was 100% funded by “someone” outside to derail Ward. However, it ought to be obvious if, according to what the state GOP has heard, McSally was not supported by “moderate Rs,” Ward would have lost this by half a million votes.
Messaging, messaging, messaging.
Until this changes (and not, I did not say “principles” or “issues” need changing), the GOP is in trouble.
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