Posted on 11/10/2018 11:51:50 AM PST by rktman
Ronald Reagan. 1986. Illegal Alien Amnesty.
Put the blame on that one imported Californian, where it belongs.
How to get people together if they are unwilling is never easy under the best of circumstances....when we have ethnic groups abounding, socialist/communists working in our nation.....who do not represent this country but want to change it to their own ideologies and culture then we have a serious problem ......and the Demorats support all of them .
That was a MAJOR factor in our decision thought process, too. It really helped having long family history in ID and buying our house about a mile from where my grandparents retired. It's too bad all of our grandparents and parents have all gone on. Would have been fun to have bought there when they were all alive.
Absolutely, There are even more powerful entities who manipulate and control all these groups as pawns and they need to be recognized and put in check.
These entities are the enemy to everyone but themselves.
Problem is they are too big to fail and own all the money and debt. They can buy any scenario they think might give them more profit and power, and do...
Totally true. But I would assume the same class is paying the public defender tab in New York, Texas, Tennessee and just about everywhere.
My bet is there are move conservatives fleeing NYS than liberals. And far more takers coming in than makers. All the folks we know who’ve left have been conservatives, many small biz owners who’ve just had enough.
I look on realtor.com at housing all over the country.
I saw something in northern Idaho that looked nice and had a larger than life, yuuuuge Trump! sign in the front window.
Must be nice.
:)
We thought Idaho was great.
We cried when we came back to California.
In Idaho, we saw pro-life billboards and free bibles all over the place. That was beautiful. We felt like we were home.
When we got back to California, we saw Planned Parenthood billboards and the whole atmosphere just felt so different. Idaho felt so much more wholesome to us.
Coming back home was really a culture shock.
It took us a while to adjust.
Every place we drove was so beautiful. Just the drive was worth it. From Marsing to Moscow to Boundary County and the Canadian border was just breathtaking. Gorgeous.
We ran into someone somewhere who said they were headed to California for vacation.
We figured they had to be going to Disneyland or had relatives here or something because why on earth would you leave a place like that and go to California of all places?
California itself, is also beautiful and has great weather and all of it but the leftists have made it unfit for decent people to inhabit anymore.
Of course, but the difference would be the codes, the judges, the jurys, and the ever so important “officer’s discretion”.
Here in Az we are allowed to exercise lethal harm to protect our private property from trespass if necessary as long as it is posted. People here almost never trespass. We are allowed to lawfully use lethal force in self defense of person and property anywhere on our property. We are legal to carry firearms open or concealed for self defense anywhere except a few government facilities.
Discretion and a warning first will solidify your legal standing of course, but it is legal to protect your person and property with lethal force. We are not forced to be victims by the state. Our person and property are not public property in common by state decree. Justifiable homicide is not rare like Ca. It is common and backed by both code and culture.
As it should be...
You are right.
It is truly obvious that CA doesn’t care about the middle class (upper, middle, lower) here.
I’m not seeing much difference.
“The Arizona Courts have explained that Arizona’s justification statute, A.R.S. § 13-404, which permits a person to act in self-defense in certain circumstances, doesn’t allow unlimited use of physical force. The statute only authorizes force to the extent that a reasonable person would believe is immediately necessary to protect against another’s unlawful force. State v. King (2010) 225 Ariz. 87, 235 P.3d 240. Arizona uses the objective reasonable man test: the jury must determine what the reactions of a reasonable person would have been in the defendant’s position and whether the defendant reasonably believed that he was in danger. State v. Eddington (1963) 95 Ariz. 10, 386 P.2d 20. Thus, any unreasonable or disproportionate use of force in self-defense is not allowed. State v. Tuzon (1978) 118 Ariz. 205, 575 P.2d 1231.”
“California is not a stand your ground state, but does recognize the “castle doctrine,” which applies to one’s home, place of business, or other real property. Similarly, an individual using deadly force to protect his or her property has no duty to retreat. But castle doctrine rights end when an individual is no longer on his or her real property. As a general rule of thumb, any force used against an intruder must be proportionate to the harm reasonably feared.”
https://statelaws.findlaw.com/california-law/california-self-defense-laws.html
As always it comes down to power, money and sustaining that.
There are far too many “Ca killed us” stories out there.
Please let me share just one example of their unconstitutional arrogance.
A couple years ago Ca tried to pass a law regulating the sale of your ca home if you move out of state. The law stated you could not sell your Ca home for 5 years after leaving the state. This would have tied up all your equity and assets in this home for 5 years and force you to pay for 5 more years of taxes, upkeep to keep local code enforcement happy, and Etc. This would have been outright financial imprisonment, if not physical imprisonment in some cases.
It did not pass but just the fact that they would even try to pass something like this pretty much sums up the the Ca government arrogance and lengths they will go to oppress and enslave their citizens. And they will keep trying until they eventually pass this totally unconstitutional regulation.
There are already a ton of unconstitutional regulations as crazy as this on the books in Ca. It’s insane.
“The law stated you could not sell your Ca home for 5 years after leaving the state.”
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That is,without a doubt,one of the most frightening ideas EVER-——glad it didn’t pass.
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Now go find how these cases this is supposed to apply to turned out in the real world. You will find that in both states these words are hollow. In your favor in Az. and against you in Ca. If you use a firearm to harm another in ca. other than forced entry into your home, or to defend from an armed robber at a business... you WILL be charged, convicted, and go to prison.
And of course even in Az. if you ever use a firearm to harm another, It better have been because you were in fear for your life or property. Although we can carry in Az, the punishment for “brandishing a firearm in public” is almost the same as attempted murder. You better have a very good reason to even pull it from the holster. But this is all just common sense and responsible firearm use and ownership.
They will keep trying until they eventually get it passed.
The idea came up to enter this bill when a high profile celebrity publicly threatened to move out of Ca because he was tired of their BS. They were actually willing to punish the masses because of this political media conflict and to teach this celebrity a lesson by tying up his assets for 5 years.
What about all the innocent bystanders?
The insane reason is even worse than the insane concept.
Yep, And ending the Federal Reserve would go a loooong ways towards getting things back in order. they are the port and gateway that facilitates it here.
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