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To: SoCal Pubbie

Of course, but the difference would be the codes, the judges, the jurys, and the ever so important “officer’s discretion”.

Here in Az we are allowed to exercise lethal harm to protect our private property from trespass if necessary as long as it is posted. People here almost never trespass. We are allowed to lawfully use lethal force in self defense of person and property anywhere on our property. We are legal to carry firearms open or concealed for self defense anywhere except a few government facilities.

Discretion and a warning first will solidify your legal standing of course, but it is legal to protect your person and property with lethal force. We are not forced to be victims by the state. Our person and property are not public property in common by state decree. Justifiable homicide is not rare like Ca. It is common and backed by both code and culture.

As it should be...


88 posted on 11/10/2018 8:32:14 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

I’m not seeing much difference.

“The Arizona Courts have explained that Arizona’s justification statute, A.R.S. § 13-404, which permits a person to act in self-defense in certain circumstances, doesn’t allow unlimited use of physical force. The statute only authorizes force to the extent that a reasonable person would believe is immediately necessary to protect against another’s unlawful force. State v. King (2010) 225 Ariz. 87, 235 P.3d 240. Arizona uses the objective reasonable man test: the jury must determine what the reactions of a reasonable person would have been in the defendant’s position and whether the defendant reasonably believed that he was in danger. State v. Eddington (1963) 95 Ariz. 10, 386 P.2d 20. Thus, any unreasonable or disproportionate use of force in self-defense is not allowed. State v. Tuzon (1978) 118 Ariz. 205, 575 P.2d 1231.”

https://tobinlawoffice.com/2016/03/self-defense-laws-in-the-state-of-arizona-when-is-assault-or-physical-force-justified/

“California is not a stand your ground state, but does recognize the “castle doctrine,” which applies to one’s home, place of business, or other real property. Similarly, an individual using deadly force to protect his or her property has no duty to retreat. But castle doctrine rights end when an individual is no longer on his or her real property. As a general rule of thumb, any force used against an intruder must be proportionate to the harm reasonably feared.”

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/california-law/california-self-defense-laws.html


90 posted on 11/10/2018 8:41:04 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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