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Opinion: What Are The Chances That America’s Disunion Turns Into Civil War?
Market Watch ^ | 11-8-2018 | Ian Morris

Posted on 11/08/2018 8:39:26 PM PST by blam

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To: Chode

I wish I knew.

I feel it coming, though.

It’s palpable.


201 posted on 11/09/2018 3:21:50 PM PST by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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To: blam

100%


202 posted on 11/09/2018 3:22:50 PM PST by Godebert
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To: FLT-bird
I keep telling people, peaceful secession is the surest path to peace.

How does Houston or Austin secede from Texas? How does Atlanta secede from Georgia?

203 posted on 11/09/2018 3:25:14 PM PST by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 https://twitter.com/TheRealDrew68)
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To: TADSLOS
the RATS better be careful what they wish for...
204 posted on 11/09/2018 3:30:18 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: blam

You have 8?


205 posted on 11/09/2018 3:32:56 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: Jack Black

Bttt.

5.56mm


206 posted on 11/09/2018 3:36:36 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Chode
They really don’t have a clue, but they’ll push us into it anyway. Chaos is a force multiplier for them. Of course, that works both ways...😀
207 posted on 11/09/2018 3:37:11 PM PST by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Thank you


208 posted on 11/09/2018 3:39:04 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Drew68

States can secede. They are sovereign. Cities cannot though I’d be more than happy to let Dade, Palm Beach and Broward Counties go their separate way from the rest of Florida. A lot of the rest of Florida’s other 64 counties would be willing to make that deal in a heartbeat.


209 posted on 11/09/2018 4:00:52 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: lightman; Windflier
blam: "Gonna have to figure out identifying insignia or uniforms."

windflier: "At the moment it looks like red MAGA hats vs. black bloc (Antifa).
We need better cover(s)....literally."

Naw… it'll be boys against the girls!



;-)

210 posted on 11/10/2018 12:01:18 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: Pelham; blam; doug from upland; Skywarner; cctrout; jonascord; Pecos; central_va; Pining_4_TX; ...
Pelham: "Low. The Civil War was a war for independence, a war between the states.
There’s no geographic separation today."

Everything depends on your definitions of "civil war", starting with Von Clausewitz: "War is the continuation of politics by other means.”
That means, likewise, we can say politics is a continuation of war by less violent means.

So there are many different types of civil war, each as different from another as, say, the Second World War and the Cold War.
Sure both were wars and both global, but very different situations.

Like a repeat of WWII, 1860s-type US Civil War is unlikely now in the extreme.
But just a little hyperbole & metaphor are needed to say we have long been in a Cold Civil War, or Civil Cold War if you prefer.
Remember, the Cold War saw years of regional hot flare-ups -- Korea, Vietnam & others -- along with guerilla wars, insurgencies, shifting alliances & strategic competition with nuclear weapons.
And where WWII lasted maybe 5-1/2 years, the Cold War lasted, was it 45 years?

Likewise Civil Cold War has sputtered on now for decades, sometimes hotter, others calmer, with shifting alliances and strategic competition for that elusive "permanent majority".

Anyway, the fundamental situation is revealed when you consider this fact: in 2018 the "progressive" Democrat Governor of New York was reelected by carrying just seven of 67 New York counties -- even New York's territory is 90% red, but ruled over by its top 10% of blue counties.

The 2016 electoral map, by counties, red=Trump, blue=Hillary


211 posted on 11/10/2018 1:11:27 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: blam

The divison today is nothing like 1860

Then it was geographic and focused on slavery and other economic issues and a certain level of rebellion against Lincoln’s further concentration of power in DC

That last part is somewhat concurrent

Today though it’s ideology and largely racial and demographic

Yes some minorities are on our side but at most one third of Latinos and 10 percent of blacks and Asians and maybe 25 percent of Jews

Most Rightists are White and Christian at least from birth

This is more like the Spanish civil war


212 posted on 11/10/2018 1:31:53 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: Dundee; blam; Pelham; Ohioan

Exactly


213 posted on 11/10/2018 1:33:30 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: blam

do not think that a civle war will break out....republicans tend to respect the rule of law they are the one who own guns and are trained to use them. they also gravitate to jobs in the military. they dominate civilian jobs that are are first responders like ambulance driver, fire department and police. where most law abiding liberals have disarmed them selves work mostly in academia, entertainment industry and white collar tech jobs....this is a over simplification but this leads me to believe that the libral left is just incapable of participating in a armed conflict but believe that the very people they despise will fight this future armed conflict or them not realizing in any armed ibserection they will not be on the side of a libral.


214 posted on 11/10/2018 1:34:10 AM PST by PCPOET7
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To: doug from upland

For us to squash the left we may have to literally kills tens of millions to bring the rest to heel

Are folks prepared for that?

I’m not I readily admit.

Our war would make Rwanda and Biafra and Zanzibar and the Congo look like a skirmish


215 posted on 11/10/2018 1:37:22 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: FLT-bird

The left has done to this country’s youth exactly what the Arabs and Iranians did to the Palestinians. They have fed them a steady diet of libel and disinformation and are slowly
turning them into living suicide bombs.

And like the Palestinians, it is not enough for those so radicalized to have their own state in which t mind their own affairs, they must replace the one that exists and drive its inhabitants into the sea.


216 posted on 11/10/2018 2:03:48 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: wardaddy
For us to squash the left we may have to literally kills tens of millions to bring the rest to heel

We could win by chasing the Hollywood crowd out of the country, forcing Starbucks to close and shut down CNN. Everything would fall into place after that.

217 posted on 11/10/2018 2:12:38 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: PCPOET7

The leftist elite do have the drug cartels and their minions...


218 posted on 11/10/2018 2:15:20 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

how much discipline and training do most people working for the cartels have. cant see them as a fighting force in great numbers


219 posted on 11/10/2018 4:58:10 AM PST by PCPOET7
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To: BroJoeK

The pink one on the left looks like a girlie man.


220 posted on 11/10/2018 5:25:06 AM PST by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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