Migrants sue Trump, govt; claim violation of constitutional rights (Nexus Services Inc. funds)

foxnews.com ^ | 11-2-18 | Edmund DeMarche, Amy Lieu , Fox News with Fox News' Gregg Re and AP

[Liz]

A dozen migrants from Honduras filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against Pres Trump, DHS, and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.....that "no person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." A recent PBS report cited former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who ruled in 1993 case that "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in a deportation proceeding."

Twelve Honduran nationals, including six children, are listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit filed Thursday in the US District Court in Washington, D.C., said it is widely known that Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are “undergoing a well-documented human rights crisis.” The lawsuit also claims that the plaintiffs’ right to the Administrative Procedures Act and the Declaratory Judgement Act were being infringed upon.

The Central American migrant caravan now numbers approximately 4,000 people, down from a high of 7,200. The lawsuit points to Trump's claim that he will prevent the caravan from entering the U.S. It claims that the president cannot stop asylum-seekers by employing the military -- when they have a fair claim. The suit criticized the president's attempt at stoking "fear and hysteria," by claiming that criminals and gang members have joined the caravan. The suit cited a Trump interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham, where the president laid out plans to build tent cities to house migrants. The suit questioned the functionality of such a project, and asked if these living quarters would qualify under the Flores Agreement of 1997.

[Captain Peter Blood]

They have no rights, they are not Citizens of this country.

[Yosemitest]

~ Reverse the Magnet ~

This is what it takes:

   1. Secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;

   2. End the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;

   3. Enforce E-Verify without exception and with severe penalties;

   4. End chain migration. Entry per individual qualifications, not family ties;

   5. Deportation upon contact with any law enforcement agency - federal, state, or local;

   6. No government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the home government);

   7. No "Path to Citizenship" - EVER - for anyone who has entered the US illegally.

Any measure which does not accomplish these things is unacceptable.
It is de facto amnesty.
And it will inevitably, ineluctably encourage millions and millions more illegal entries.

Sounds like a great "Plan of Action" to me.

We need to REQUIRE that students AND VOTERS UNDERSTAND the Constitution.
They must actually READ THE CONSTITUTION !
EXCERPT ...

RUSH: ... But it is a seminal moment
when a political party, as its official position, refuses to accept election results.
That’s where we are, and that’s why we’re where we are.
They refuse to accept it, for whatever reason.
They hate Trump, they don’t feel good about it, they disagree, whatever.
Doesn’t matter why.
Just the fact that they refuse to accept the results is a horribly dangerous thing.
Because what if it keeps up ?
What if the only time there is peace in America is when they win elections ?

You know, I predicted some time ago that they’re gonna figure this out at some point,
and the natural conclusion to figuring this out is,
“Well, let’s just eliminate elections !
If elections are what’s holding us back, let’s find a way to eliminate ’em !”
People laughed.
“Come on, Rush. That’s never gonna happen.”
Do not ever say the left isn’t capable of anything ever.
So now Trump,
rather than being intimidated by their refusal to accept his election,
rather than get his feelings hurt,
Trump doubles down, triples down.

Every time they hit him, he hits back with additional energy and verve —
and I’m telling you, this promise with an executive order to end birthright citizenship is huge,
and it’s why he was elected.
When things are going terribly wrong — and they are in our country right now.
When things are terribly wrong and out of control, you have to have somebody willing to go outside the so-called boundaries,
and Trump’s doing it every day and willing to do so.
Because this is what pushing back —
this is what defiance, this is what changing what the left is doing
— looks like.

It was never gonna be pretty.
It was never gonna be quiet.
It was never gonna be clean.
It requires a strong stomach and strong fortitude.
I don’t think any elected Republican other than Trump…
Even if they had made the promises Trump made,
I think all of them would have caved by now.
But Trump hasn’t.
He doubles down.
“Right. I’m gonna issue an executive order;
I’m gonna end birthright citizenship.”
Let me read to you the 14th Amendment and how it begins.
“All persons…”



Now, the 14th Amendment goes back to 1866.
I think it was ratified by Congress in 1866.
It was passed by Congress; ratified by the states two years later.
So in 1866, it was passed by Congress and ratified by the states in 1868,
and its original intent was to grant citizenship to slaves and their descendants.
It was part and parcel of the post-Civil War era of America fixing itself.
It was a good thing.
Our Constitution was written so that mistakes at the founding could be corrected.
The vast majority of people knew slavery at the founding was untenable,
but they needed the union in order to fight the Revolutionary War.
They needed the southern states.
They needed unity to do that

so they had to accept slavery,
but they built in safeguards to wipe it out,
and it happened in 1868 when the 14th Amendment passed.

It begins this way:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the U.S. and of the state wherein they reside.”
It was clearly intended to be referring to slaves and their descendants.
The parts that birthright citizenship, uh, freaks have to delete are
“naturalized”
and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”
You are not naturalized and you are not subject to the U.S. jurisdiction if you’re here illegally !
You cannot be !

You’re under some other country’s jurisdiction.
If you’re here illegally, you cannot possibly be naturalized.
Well, the birthright citizenship crowd —
which wants to water down American culture and destroy Western civilization
— conveniently leaves out “naturalized” and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”
So your born-here child absolutely is not a citizen.
This is what Trump is saying.
Trump is finally pushing back against an assumption that has been made because
it was the path of least resistance, if you will.
But now it’s make-or-break time.

As my friend McCarthy says,
“You need somebody to break the furniture.”


Sometimes, you gotta remodel the house.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Okay, a little bit more background on the 14th Amendment here
’cause it’s gonna be relevant as the issue going forward.
Again, it was added after the Civil War.
Its purpose was to overrule the Dred Scott Decision !
Which was a horrible decision.
Dred Scott sanctioned slavery.
Roger Taney was the chief justice, forever the immortalized in infamy.
It held that black slaves were not citizens.
So Congress got into gear and passed the 14th Amendment.

It guaranteed that freed slaves would have all the privileges of citizenship by providing, quote,
“all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States
and of the state wherein they reside,”
which means
the drafters of the 14th Amendment had no intention of conferring citizenship on the children of aliens who happened to be born here.
In fact, the very author of the citizenship cause, Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan, expressly said…



This is why the original intent of founding documents is so important.
Quote, “This,” meaning the 14th Amendment…

“This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers…”
It was expressly intended to confer citizenship to slaves and their descendants.
There was an 1884 case, Elk v. Wilkins.
The Supreme Court ruled the 14th Amendment did not even confer citizenship on Native Americans
because they were subject to tribal jurisdiction, not U.S. jurisdiction.

Well, an illegal alien here is not subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
They’re under the jurisdiction of where they came from if they’re here illegally.
Guess when this all changed ?
In the 1960s !
Concomitant with Senator Kennedy wanting to reopen…
We had shut down all immigration from ’21 to ’65.
Along comes Senator Kennedy in the pre-Chappaquiddick days wanting to reopen it
for the express purpose of
making sure the Democrat Party always had a permanent underclass of voters dependent on them and the government.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: And, by the way, and even according to our leftist brothers and sisters at NPR report
no nation in Europe confers birthright citizenship.
Liberals love to say we should emulate Europe, right ?
Okay !

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[SunkenCiv]

Thanks AW!M. They were obviously told to do this by some ambulance chaser, and there should be retribution against the joker.

[Jim Noble]

There is no chance that any court will ever rule that “persons” means “citizens”.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Big Yo!

Yosemitest!

You rock, FRiend!