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Speaker Paul Ryan: “you cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order.”
Conservative Treehouse ^ | October 30, 2018b | Sundance

Posted on 10/30/2018 5:24:47 PM PDT by detective

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To: tomkat

Sorry, my iPhone won’t let me scroll further to the left than the vertical axis, so I cannot locate Ryan.


61 posted on 10/30/2018 6:31:22 PM PDT by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: Yosemitest
You are not naturalized and you are not subject to the U.S. jurisdiction if you’re here illegally ! You cannot be”

There’s the money shot right there. SCOTUS really has no out on this one. 5-4 or 6-3 and the media will scream partisan SC and of course the “asterisk” justice’s vote doesn’t count. democrats will go absolutes stark raving bonkers - deporting, arresting, turning back all of their future voters but especially stopping the self generating future voters for democrats which are not subject to the jurisdiction of the states in which they are currently living out their lives as fugitives from justice

62 posted on 10/30/2018 6:33:51 PM PDT by atc23 (Votante Blanco)
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To: detective

Exactly why Ryan is leaving. He does not have a clue what is happening


63 posted on 10/30/2018 6:34:08 PM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: detective
obviously as conservatives we believe in the Constitution

Yeah, we all saw how aggressively you fought to preserve the Constitution, Paul. /sarcasm

64 posted on 10/30/2018 6:35:51 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: detective

Trump wants this to go to the now conservative 5-4 Supreme Court so the constitutional controversy as to birthright citizenship of children born to illegals can be clarified hopefully on the side that the constitution never intended for children of illegals to have birthright citizenship. Clearly if it were a 5-4 liberal court he would not waste his time as the constitution is a mere afterthought to a liberal judiciary in legislative lockstep in enacting progressive policies.Only way of getting it to the Supreme Court is Congress passing a bill ending birthright for illegals. But this would fail passage because Senate Dems would filibuster it. So an executive order should do the trick in getting it in front of the Supreme Court to get the clarification on the issue hopefully ending birthright citizenship for illegals


65 posted on 10/30/2018 6:35:53 PM PDT by chuckee (extended beyond the timens e)
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To: detective

That’s ok. Lindsay is introducing legislation. Maybe a vote will happen in time for this lame duck to vote


66 posted on 10/30/2018 6:36:17 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: mylife

Ryan is not correct

Besides Lindsay has introduced a bill


67 posted on 10/30/2018 6:37:36 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: All

John Roberts will duck the fundamental question by throwing it to Congress.

Though not what we want, it will assure Trump’s reelection.

Trump will succeed in his second term in forcing Congress to repeal chain migration, a major incentive for young, strong illegals to be the pathfinder in the family.


68 posted on 10/30/2018 6:38:33 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: 4Runner

Yup.


69 posted on 10/30/2018 6:39:38 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: chuckee

The point is Trump doesn’t need to the courts or congress to enforce the law. Or to NOT enforce an imaginary law(birthright citizenship to illegals)

Next


70 posted on 10/30/2018 6:42:20 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: detective

Ryan may be both right and wrong on this issue. By President Trump making it an executive order, he provokes a challenge that may strike down his policy. However, such a ruling by a lower court will push it up to the Supreme Court who will uphold Trump’s executive order. Oh! will the Left cry rivers of tears and heads will explode like popcorn. Did I say popcorn!!


71 posted on 10/30/2018 6:44:58 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: cymbeline
Why wouldn’t the baby be? Why would it be?

Seems to me it’s undefined.

No, it is very well defined in the 14th Amendment. The mainstream news always omits the clause defining "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". This clause is well defined and applies to ambassadors and foreign agents, that they are subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign entity and not the USA, so if their baby is born here it does not automatically confer citizenship to the baby of foreign agents. It is very well defined, with supporting verbiage. Illegal aliens are subject to the jurisdiction of other countries, and not of our country. That is why they can be deported. The babies of foreign agents can be deported along with their parents, if need be.

All President Trump needs to do is the mirror the original text of the 14th Amendment and order it followed as written. It will go to the Supreme Court, and if you negate the E.O. then the 14th Amendment must also be negated, or altered. The process to negate or alter would need to be ratified by the states. President Trump is on solid legal ground.

72 posted on 10/30/2018 6:50:17 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: 4Runner
The executive and legislative branches of the U.S. government need to stop ceding their own implied powers to the judiciary. Yet this has been the pattern over the past 30 years.

So true. But that train left the station long ago, and the SCOTUS is the only way to go until the legislative swamp is drained.

73 posted on 10/30/2018 6:52:34 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: detective

Bookmark


74 posted on 10/30/2018 6:54:07 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (If only Harvey Weinstein's bathrobe could talk.)
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To: detective

Watch him, Ryan.


75 posted on 10/30/2018 7:00:02 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: mylife

If I’ve been good, an get my wife to make me a sammich. ;-)

I generally pack my own lunch and don’t like to share it nor do I expect to get a lunch hand out.

Roberts is likely to provide much entertainment in the next two years. (He has certainly dropped his profile over the last two years...)


76 posted on 10/30/2018 7:07:47 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mylife

If I’ve been good, I can get my wife to make me a sammich on occassion. ;-)

I generally pack my own lunch and don’t like to share it nor do I expect to get a lunch hand out.

Roberts is likely to provide much entertainment in the next two years. (He has certainly dropped his profile over the last two years...)


77 posted on 10/30/2018 7:08:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: detective

Good discussion on this topic, Laura Ingraham has experts on Constitutional Law.

They say that the original intention of the Constitution supports Trump.


78 posted on 10/30/2018 7:16:31 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Electric Graffiti

I’m not sure gorsuch or kavanuagh would come up with the correct decision. >>>. True no deep state judge is going to rule in favor of the constitution.


79 posted on 10/30/2018 7:18:08 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: clintonh8r

Other than McLame I’ve never so anticipated the departure of a Republican as much Ryan’s.


80 posted on 10/30/2018 7:18:25 PM PDT by hardspunned
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