Speaker Paul Ryan: “you cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order.”

Conservative Treehouse ^ | October 30, 2018b | Sundance

[Sasparilla]

“The 14th amendment will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of person

Senator Howard who drafted the Citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment.

When original intent of this Ammendment is argued in SCOTUS, The vote should be 5-4.
Maybe 6-3 with another replacement Justice.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Ryan is a Cheap Labor Express stooge.

He refused to take Obama to court for the blatantly illegal DACA program.

P.S. He’s wrong here.

[WalterSkinner]

..he will represent the Deep State til they pry the gavel from his hand...

[magua]

I’m putting my money on Levin also.

[Paladin2]

Roberts is a lib squish on the big issues and now the swing vote.

SCOTUS won’t be secure until VSGPDJT has replaced RBG and Breyer.

[MNJohnnie]

And you couldn;t impose DACA by EO yet here we are stuck with it thanks to Activist Judges

[roadcat]

Idiot Ryan. Saw him on the news saying President Trump would be violating the Constitution if he puts forth an E.O. Ryan obviously never read the text in the 14th Amendment:

"born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

All President Trump needs to do with an E.O., is to reinforce enforcement of this clause in the 14th Amendment. When the liberals howl, take it to the Supreme Court. If anyone tries to invalidate the E.O., then the 14th Amendment must also be invalidated - completely or amended!

Foreigners who have babies here, are not subject to our jurisdiction but that of their countries of origin, and that applies to their babies as well.

[SharpRightTurn]

Paul Ryan has been the unworthy successor to the unworthy John Boehner. Will Kevin McCarthy be the equally unworthy successor to Paul Ryan?

The gang that couldn’t (or wouldn’t) shoot straight.

[mylife]

Pack a lunch, we’re gonna be here a while...

But you aint stealing my lunch..

[FlingWingFlyer]

How would this a**hole know. It’s OUR America. We can do anything.

[gasport]

POTUS is one damn clever fellow!

[boycott]

This idiot got spanked by Crazy Joe Biden in a debate. That’s how clueless this clown is.

Is Ryan trying to get a gig with CNN? So glad this punk is soon to be out of office.

[Electric Graffiti]

“You have to start the process somewhere and that is just what President Trump is doing.”

Trump is going to enforce the law as the chief executive. He doesn’t need the courts to ‘interpret’ the 14th. It’s crystal clear.

IOW, he’s no longer going to enforce a conjured up fraudulent ‘law’ by the bureaucracy. No courts needed in the discussion.

[EinNYC]

How come all of Odungo’s VERY ILLEGAL executive orders were just dandy with you, Ryan the Traitor, but this one, which rights an incorrect interpretation of the Constitution, is not? You filthy RINO traitor, piece of garbage. Don’t let the screen door hit you when you leave. On the other hand, maybe you should.

[Yosemitest]

We need to REQUIRE that students AND VOTERS UNDERSTAND the Constitution.
They must actually READ THE CONSTITUTION !

Rush make the details of this discussion VERY CLEAR today.

EXCERPT ...

RUSH: ... I don’t think any elected Republican other than Trump…
Even if they had made the promises Trump made,
I think all of them would have caved by now.
But Trump hasn’t.
He doubles down.
“Right. I’m gonna issue an executive order;
I’m gonna end birthright citizenship.”
Let me read to you the 14th Amendment and how it begins.
“All persons…”



Now, the 14th Amendment goes back to 1866.
I think it was ratified by Congress in 1866.
It was passed by Congress; ratified by the states two years later.
So in 1866, it was passed by Congress and ratified by the states in 1868,
and its original intent was

to grant citizenship to slaves and their descendants.
It was part and parcel of the post-Civil War era of America fixing itself.
It was a good thing.
Our Constitution was written so that mistakes at the founding could be corrected.
The vast majority of people knew slavery at the founding was untenable,
but they needed the union in order to fight the Revolutionary War.
They needed the southern states.
They needed unity to do that
so they had to accept slavery,
but they built in safeguards to wipe it out,
and it happened in 1868 when the 14th Amendment passed.

It begins this way:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the U.S. and of the state wherein they reside.”
It was clearly intended to be referring to slaves and their descendants.
The parts that birthright citizenship, uh, freaks have to delete are
“naturalized”
and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”
You are not naturalized and you are not subject to the U.S. jurisdiction if you’re here illegally !
You cannot be !

You’re under some other country’s jurisdiction.
If you’re here illegally, you cannot possibly be naturalized.
Well, the birthright citizenship crowd —
which wants to water down American culture and destroy Western civilization
— conveniently leaves out “naturalized” and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”
So your born-here child absolutely is not a citizen.
This is what Trump is saying.
Trump is finally pushing back against an assumption that has been made because
it was the path of least resistance, if you will.
But now it’s make-or-break time.

As my friend McCarthy says,
“You need somebody to break the furniture.”


Sometimes, you gotta remodel the house.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Okay, a little bit more background on the 14th Amendment here
’cause it’s gonna be relevant as the issue going forward.
Again, it was added after the Civil War.
Its purpose was to overrule the Dred Scott Decision !
Which was a horrible decision.
Dred Scott sanctioned slavery.
Roger Taney was the chief justice, forever the immortalized in infamy.
It held that black slaves were not citizens.
So Congress got into gear and passed the 14th Amendment.

It guaranteed that freed slaves would have all the privileges of citizenship by providing, quote,
“all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States
and of the state wherein they reside,”
which means
the drafters of the 14th Amendment had no intention of conferring citizenship on the children of aliens who happened to be born here.
In fact, the very author of the citizenship cause, Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan, expressly said…



This is why the original intent of founding documents is so important.
Quote, “This,” meaning the 14th Amendment…

“This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers…”
It was expressly intended to confer citizenship to slaves and their descendants.
There was an 1884 case, Elk v. Wilkins.
The Supreme Court ruled the 14th Amendment did not even confer citizenship on Native Americans
because they were subject to tribal jurisdiction, not U.S. jurisdiction.

Well, an illegal alien here is not subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
They’re under the jurisdiction of where they came from if they’re here illegally.
Guess when this all changed ?
In the 1960s !
Concomitant with Senator Kennedy wanting to reopen…
We had shut down all immigration from ’21 to ’65.
Along comes Senator Kennedy in the pre-Chappaquiddick days wanting to reopen it
for the express purpose of
making sure the Democrat Party always had a permanent underclass of voters dependent on them and the government.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: And, by the way, and even according to our leftist brothers and sisters at NPR report
no nation in Europe confers birthright citizenship.
Liberals love to say we should emulate Europe, right ?
Okay !

BREAK TRANSCRIPT ...

[Electric Graffiti]

Levin has it right on this one. Where he divined his notion of natural born Citizen is anyone’s guess.

[USCG SimTech]

This is true for a birth from legal residents of the United States (Under jurisdiction). Non-citizens giving birth in the Lincoln bedroom of the White House and the baby is still a non-citizen. Mexican citizens that birth anywhere on the planet and that baby is a mexican citizen, for example. Same for Americans.

[mylife]

Oh it is going to the court.

Trump just sent it there.

The Libs will freak out

[Wuli]

“You cannot end birthright citizenship”

Ryan apparently never studied or never properly understood the 14th Amendment or the legislative discussions behind it and leading up to it, particularly with respect to what he calls “birthright citizenship”, which accoding to the authors of the 14th amendment never applied to the children born here to (a) temporary foreign visitors, or (b) persons who are foreigners and not here legally.

It applied to slaves who had not been considered citizens in various states, but were residents of a state at the time of the 14th Amendment, and it applied to foreigners who were allowed to legally immigrate here for the purpose of settling here, and whom had renounced allegience to their former nation - and no one else.

[KC_Lion]

Speaker Paul Ryan: “you cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order.